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Posted May 05, 2012 - 05:41 PM

Ok, this problem plagues us all... the Lawn & Garden battery... that lasts about 2-3 years... Just tested three of them stupid things today, including the one I bought for twice as much because it had 100 more cranking amps. Guess how they all tested.... WEAK and I have had them no more than 3 years... So to replace them all will cost over $100, and I will have to keep replacing them!! Bad part is most of the tractors with batteries in my collection accept no larger than a L&G battery... so car batteries are out of the question, but what else fits... Motorcycle battery crossed my mind, but they just aren't as powerful, but smaller.. Then the deep cycle entered my mind, but is there a good marine deep cycle the same size and spec. I have heard those to last 2-3 times as long, if not more in a tractor application, but is there a good solution to all of our problems??

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Posted May 05, 2012 - 06:00 PM

Yes, you're 100% right. They are poor quality. They just don't last.
Deep cycle batteries are not meant to be used as starting batteries. They can't withstand
that shock load. They are meant to be slowly drained to half, an then slowly recharged.
They'll do the job, but won't last.
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Posted May 05, 2012 - 06:11 PM

I'm not sure how much room you have in your application, but for one of my MF12's I am using an Optima battery sized for I think a Honda Accord. Check with your local auto store and see what they can come up with.
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Posted May 05, 2012 - 06:14 PM

Yep, they suck...Luckily, my Fords will take a full sized car battery.....I have had good luck taking all my batteries out in the winter, line them up on the work bench and toss the trickle charger on them for a couple of hours each once a month. I have 2008 batteries still working
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Posted May 05, 2012 - 06:18 PM

Largest battery that fits in factory location is an L&G battery, and it requires the reverse positive terminal setup.

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Posted May 05, 2012 - 06:23 PM

Does Sears make a DieHard L&G?
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Posted May 05, 2012 - 06:34 PM

... I have had good luck taking all my batteries out in the winter, line them up on the work bench and toss the trickle charger on them for a couple of hours each once a month. I have 2008 batteries still working


I think that this is the key.

Lead acid batteries don't like not being used. Letting them sit idle, especially in a discharged state, will shorten their life considerably.
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Posted May 05, 2012 - 06:46 PM

I buy the 350cca GT batteries at Wally World, and they last 3 to 5 years. Even just 3 years isn't really that bad, beinbg they are like $27 each. That's only $9 per year. The only problem is when you have like 10 tractors, then it's $90/year!
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Posted May 05, 2012 - 06:48 PM

I seem to have decent results with taking all the battery's out for the winter and charging them about once a month.
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Posted May 05, 2012 - 07:06 PM

I buy the 350cca GT batteries at Wally World, and they last 3 to 5 years. Even just 3 years isn't really that bad, beinbg they are like $27 each. That's only $9 per year. The only problem is when you have like 10 tractors, then it's $90/year!


Enter my problem!! When they all crap out the same year that's a few hundred bucks.....

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Posted May 05, 2012 - 07:09 PM

Enter my problem!! When they all crap out the same year that's a few hundred bucks.....


That's exactly why I usually only replace two car tires at a time! LOL
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Posted May 05, 2012 - 07:11 PM

I would bet that if you have a S/G that a deep cycle may be the way to go. I just bought two for the wife's power chair. They are same size as L/G batteries, but cost twice as much.
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Posted May 05, 2012 - 07:20 PM

Most of my GT batteries last 4 to 5 years, which isn't bad for their cost. But I leave mine in the tractors year round, but always start them once a month when it's not too cold & let the engine run a while. Good for the engine & the batteries. If too darned cold, then I put a 2 amp rate charge on them until I get them all recharged. Usually 12 to 18hrs is plenty.
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Posted May 05, 2012 - 07:22 PM

I see they are selling various grades of L and G batteries and the most expensive ones have a lot more CCA then the cheapies. It doesn't sound like they last much longer but you get more cranking amps. My 314 takes a car battery and when I got it there was an older NAPA battery in it. I fully expected it to be dead this spring but it's holding up fine. I have a 6 year old Land G on my Ariens snow blower and it still holds a charge. It's just a generic battery so I don't know why it's still going. I usually put a trickle charger on it each fall for a couple of days and it seems to be fine. I also need a battery for the MF8 so I'll be buying at least 1 in the next while.
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Posted May 05, 2012 - 07:27 PM

I try to do the same. Run them monthly. I bought one of those magnetic block heaters, so
I can fire them up in the cold too.
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