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#1 dacheez17 OFFLINE  

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Posted April 28, 2012 - 07:50 PM

Hi there, first let me apologize for this long winded post a lot of info to put out for diagnosis.

Here we go, just got a 1980 pk 2418 from my father in law. Valve seat came dislodged, after using a punch and resetting it. That was the reason the tractor quite running. It's been sitting for about 8 months now. Didn't bother trying to start it why got it for valve saftey reasons. Now that motor is back together, this thing wont turn over. I was able to put jumper cable on starter and got it to crank over. the key wont turn it. I cleaned up the ground on the battery, the battery is holding great voltage. at the switch, I'm getting current, when I turn switch on, getting power to the lights and to the pto. I can't get any current outta the pto switch. Do these go bad? right now I'm thinking that this is the only thing left. It's in the off position, but still not getting anything to solenoid.

This is 3 pole solenoid mounted on the firewall, I've never seen one like this. Can I bypass the pto to get tractor running, and how. Just want to get this thing fired up.

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Posted April 28, 2012 - 08:00 PM

Welcome to the site! Thanks for joining! I had the same problem with my '75 1614. It had power into the PTO switch, but not out of it. The switch should have four wires going to it, unhook the two bottom wires and tape them together, dont hold them! I did that and got a pretty nice shock. Try turning it over and see what happens, if it turns over you need a new switch. I dont use the mower on my '75 so I put new ends on the wires and connected the two instead of buying another switch. The top two wires on the switch are for the electric PTO unit. Can you post any pics of it? I sure would like to see it! Good luck with it!
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Posted April 28, 2012 - 11:04 PM

Thanks Ryan, that's precisely the information that I was looking for. I couldn't find that information anywhere, and the other site couldn't help me out for squat. I will give that a shot tomorrow, and see what happens. I will try to take some photos for you and set them up. Nothing special about the old girl. She's got a belly mower, a three point and a rear pto. Although the rear pto drive assembly is sitting in my yard with the tractor. She's in parts from me trying to get her running. Hopefully with your insight, I should finally for once and for all be able to hear her purr. Thanks again

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Posted April 29, 2012 - 03:42 AM

Welcome to the forum, dacheez17! Sounds like Ryan got you fixed up. Those PTO switches can be a pain, but are needed if you have a mower on there. Good luck!

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Posted April 29, 2012 - 08:36 AM

yeah Kenny, I'm hoping that Ryan got me fixed up, Thanks again for the welcome! Yea, I realize I'll need the pto for the belly mower, but if this trick works then I know my pto switch is bad.

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Posted April 29, 2012 - 08:12 PM

Ok, well I got to the problem solved. It turns out that the solenoid was stuck in the disengaged position. I jumped the solenoid a couple time and then finally started to hear it click. hooked everything back up and she turned over. That not being enough for me I mounted the grill and tank, and put fresh fuel in, took the carb off, cleaned out the high and low speed jets, and drained and cleaned the float bowl. Not sure what the thing that fuel runs through mounted to motor, but blew air through that, cleaned my plug, and sprayed some ether in her and turned the key. She fired up and quit. kept trying to start for about 15 min. Gave up, walked away said some choice words :laughingteeth: and got a cold brew. Turned the key had a sputter, kept pushing her, and she roared about 5 min later. Even got pto to work. Should've gotten her some viagra, and I'm sure she'd jumped right up running like a scalded cat. Thanks for your help guys
pics to follow when I can figure out how to do it

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Posted April 29, 2012 - 08:30 PM

This is one pic I uploaded to the power king album, I think I uploaded 5 total, they should all be in sequence



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Posted April 30, 2012 - 06:00 AM

Glad to hear you found the problem , some times those electrical problems can be tough to find , Al




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