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#46 Ryan313 OFFLINE  

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Posted June 23, 2012 - 03:05 PM

It sticks out quite a bit farther, I haven't measured it but here are some pics for comparison. These pics also make a good before and after for the paint. Lol.

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Posted June 23, 2012 - 03:09 PM

Definitely a big difference in where the trailer hooks up. Trailer looks good with the new paint.

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Posted June 23, 2012 - 03:24 PM

From the back of the frame to the center of the ball the '71 is 9 3/4 inches. The '75 is 19 1/2 inches. So it's almost a 10 inch difference.
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Posted June 23, 2012 - 03:37 PM

That can make a heck of a difference when turning. Allows the tongue to move more in the opposite direction before going around the corner, thus clearing trees better.

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Posted June 25, 2012 - 11:51 PM

Ryan, Sounds like you have a tongue to extend some. 10" is a big difference. Just make sure it doesn't affect the safety of the tractor. You have the extra weight of the deck on that one to help keep her down.

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Posted June 26, 2012 - 12:26 AM

Ryan, the wings turned out nicely. You do some very nice fab work young man !! :thumbs:

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Posted June 26, 2012 - 11:37 AM

Ryan, Sounds like you have a tongue to extend some. 10" is a big difference. Just make sure it doesn't affect the safety of the tractor. You have the extra weight of the deck on that one to help keep her down.


What would extending the tongue do? I would think that will make it hit more trees! I think that it is fine being the far back, I haven't had any problems with it yet. Also, the mower deck was only on for a week or so while the 312 was down.

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Posted June 27, 2012 - 07:04 AM

Ryan, if your hitch is further back, as you swing to the left, the trailer tongue goes further to the right, making it follow closer to your wheel tracks instead of cutting the corner shorter.

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Posted June 28, 2012 - 10:28 AM

Put some diamond plate on top and they would be some really nice running boards! In the rock crawling world they are called sliders!

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Posted June 28, 2012 - 10:40 AM

What would extending the tongue do? I would think that will make it hit more trees! I think that it is fine being the far back, I haven't had any problems with it yet. Also, the mower deck was only on for a week or so while the 312 was down.

Ryan, if your hitch is further back, as you swing to the left, the trailer tongue goes further to the right, making it follow closer to your wheel tracks instead of cutting the corner shorter.


You guys are talking 2 seperate things here...

Extending the hitch back farther on the Tractor will make the front of the tongue swing farther making the trailer swing around corners wider. = GOOD!
Extending the tongue of the trailer forward will make the distance from hitch to wheels longer, causing the trailer to turn shorter= BAD!

There is actually a formula that takes into account the front axle center line to rear axle center line distance, rear axle center line to hitch distance and the hitch to trailer axle center line distance that you can use to get a trailer to virtually follow in the tractors tracks. But of course I cannot find it right now.....

Edited by RoosterLew, June 28, 2012 - 10:43 AM.

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Posted June 28, 2012 - 10:42 AM

You guys are talking 2 seperate things here...

Extending the hitch back farther on the Tractor will make the front of the tongue swing farther making the trailer swing around corners wider. = GOOD!
Extending the tongue of the trailer forward will make the distance from hitch to wheels longer, causing the trailer to turn shorter= BAD!


Thanks for clearing that up! 'cause before he said I had some tongue extending to do!
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Posted June 28, 2012 - 10:46 AM

Nope, you only want tongue as long as needed for how sharp you want to turn. a longer tongue does nothing more than ineffectively lengthen the trailer without adding any payload! It also puts more weight on the tractor! Another BAD! lol

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Posted June 28, 2012 - 10:47 AM

Good looking little trailer BTW, been working on designing one similar!

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Posted June 28, 2012 - 12:07 PM

Good looking little trailer BTW, been working on designing one similar!


Thanks! I am looking forward to the thread! There will be a thread... right?
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Posted June 28, 2012 - 12:08 PM

Nope, you only want tongue as long as needed for how sharp you want to turn. a longer tongue does nothing more than ineffectively lengthen the trailer without adding any payload! It also puts more weight on the tractor! Another BAD! lol


While I agree if your pulling with a GT. I have found a too short tongue a problem when pulling with a pickup.
My Dad has a trailer simular to Ryans that is used both with a GT and on the road behind a pickup with a short tongue.
1 it's hard to see behind the pickup and 2 is nearly impossible to back up because the short tongue allows it to turn( WAY!) too quickly.




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