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#1 English OFFLINE  

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Posted March 23, 2012 - 12:28 PM

Going to look at a "mechanics special" tomorrow. Add says it's a Sovereign with what the man believes is a 12 horse engine. Would this be the Sovereign 3012? It's in parts but has a solid deck, tiller and snow blade.

Any info on these?

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Posted March 23, 2012 - 01:28 PM

Where is that one at Mike, Elsie??

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Posted March 23, 2012 - 11:28 PM

I think the model number was incremented each year: 3012, 3112, 3212.

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Posted March 23, 2012 - 11:34 PM

For a really good source of info - check youtube for videos from a guy named zippo. He a video specifically on buying Simplicity tractors.

The BGB (Bevel Gear Box) is a critical part. If it's in poor shape, you could have a difficult time trying to find a replacement or parts.

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Posted March 24, 2012 - 06:43 AM

For a really good source of info - check youtube for videos from a guy named zippo. He a video specifically on buying Simplicity tractors.

The BGB (Bevel Gear Box) is a critical part. If it's in poor shape, you could have a difficult time trying to find a replacement or parts.


Good point motobreeder, assuming it is the one that has been posted off and on for well over a year:

We have a large simplicity garden tractor, its a sovereign,hydrostatic drive,believe it to be a 12 hp.,comes with a rear tine rototiller, snow blade,and mower deck,it has good tires, we bought this to do a garden,but bought a farm tractor,so dont need this one, the gear box,and drive shaftneeded replaced when we purchased it,have all parts that need to be installed, the id # is 8716570 $550.00 ca$h may consider selling tiller for $300.00 ca$h,and parting out, if interested call ......

I think you may be buying a basket case in a basket or box or two, I would at least call them and have them correct the ID number as the 8716570 number is NOT a good Simplicity model # (AFAIK)
Buyer beware!

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Posted March 24, 2012 - 09:11 AM

Thanks! That's the ad and the info I needed. Think he metioned he had a gear box when I spoke with him but if it has been posted that long I think I'll pass. I'm sure more knowledgable people have looked at it and decided it was not a good deal.

Edited by English, March 24, 2012 - 09:13 AM.


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Posted March 24, 2012 - 01:55 PM

The ID number (8716570) could very well be correct. The first three numbers (871) should actually be the last three numbers of the model or Mfg. number, as in 990871. The other four numbers are the serial number.

Simplicity tractor Mfg. #990871 is a Sovereign 3416H.

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Posted March 24, 2012 - 09:49 PM

I had a 1968 3012 and upgraded to an Allis B112(same basic model) and picked up a 3212 parts tractor with the thoughts of making an HB112 someday. I would go buy it, set it all aside, and find a 3012/3112/3212 that runs and use this one for parts. The attachments he has listed are worth $500+ here alone.




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