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#16 jay holt OFFLINE  

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Posted March 23, 2012 - 08:40 PM

nice find, 3point& rear pto, you scoredbig! jay
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Posted March 25, 2012 - 09:13 PM

I have finally had some time to look things over. Nobody knows the story behind the rearend being taken apart but here is a list of what I have found:
Broken hub that has been brazed (well done) back together
Disc from turning brake (on same hub) has worn about halfway through on one side from the brake pad. Po had built up worn area with braze, but never finished grinding it down.
Axle shaft splined end had mushroomed, but broken spider gear had been removed. Guessing the PO has mushroomed it after gear removal
Broken spider gear from axle, had 3 teeth missing but everything else good
Most of the pinion gears had busted teeth
Diff side cover was split, allowing 2 pinions to fall out.

I have no idea what the sequence of events were that lead to this failure. The bad thing is that, as far as I can tell, everything was ready to be put back together. There was is a replacement diff side cover, replacement pinions (except 1), replacement axle gear. All nuts and bolts are there too. So far the only thing i have had to do is get 1 additional pinion and do some file work to the axles splined end so that the new gear will fit. I will try having a new disc made for the brake and might have to fab up one brake pad. Other than that I hope to have it put back together in a week or two.

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Posted March 26, 2012 - 04:03 PM

That's great progress so far! Glad that everything's coming together on it so far! We'd love to see some :camera: of the progress!
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Posted March 26, 2012 - 05:24 PM

Sounds very promising. Hope the rest goes smoothly. Thanks for the update.
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Posted March 26, 2012 - 05:32 PM

Great score Coldone and sounds like you had an enjoyable road trip. Also sounds like you are already making great headway on getting it back together. Great job :D
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Posted March 26, 2012 - 10:17 PM

Nothing going back together at the moment, I am waiting on one replacement pinion. I could have used one that did not have put one or two chips in the teeth but I decided to be patient ( a first). I really am looking forward to getting this one up and running and since it has such low hours I want to use the best parts I can. I dont want to be pulling it apart again anytime soon. I dropped off the damaged brake rotor with a machinist today to have one reproduced. Again, dont want to do a halfway job on this one. He said it might be a month before he gets to it :mecry: But when its free you dont complain.

Anyway, Its a race of parts for this weeks project. If my gasket set gets here before the pinion I will be putting the 1650 together first. Either way i will take some photos of both and get them in their threads.
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Posted March 27, 2012 - 04:54 AM

Hopefully you'll get it all back together soon.

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Posted April 05, 2012 - 07:32 PM

Opps sorry for not updating.

The pinions came in last week and i started putting the diff back together only to find out that the replacement diff cover was an updated version. The diff consists of 2 side plates, a bull gear, 8 pinions, and 4 bolts. The original diff used 5/16 bolts, the upgraded version uses 3/8. So I couldnt put the diff back together. I found a complete upgraded diff on ebay and it arrived today. I jumped on it and got it all back together and was trying to get it back under the tractor when I noticed that i had forgotten to put in the parking pawl. :mad2:

So I called it a day and I guess I will try to get it all fixed tomorrow. And maybe some pics too.
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Posted April 07, 2012 - 07:17 PM

Its Alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks to my lovely wife for taking care of the kids this afternoon! I got to take a victory lap right at dark. Even the dash light works. Ran into some other problems and I will get into detail later. Now I have to give the kids a bath.

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Posted April 07, 2012 - 07:27 PM

No video? :mecry: Glad things are coming along!
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Posted April 07, 2012 - 08:11 PM

That's awesome news! Congratulations on the deal of the century!
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Posted April 07, 2012 - 09:38 PM

Now for the rest of the story.

Today started off with family pictures, so we got home around 1:00. My Goal was to get it running and possibly put bak together. With this long weekend coming to an end I new I had to get the majority of the work done today. The odds and end s could wait and be done a little at the time in the evenings. So I changed clothes and headed to the shed. The D200 was waiting on me, i had left off with getting the rearend put in and the one disk brake setup and the wheels on. I dragged the battery out of the D160 and installed it into the D200. I hit the ignition and she spun over. I put a little gas down the carb and she ran for a few seconds spewing rat nests out of every orifice. I popped the shrouds off, much easier on the kohler than the onan, and cleaned out all the rat hotel. There was too much in there to call it a nest. Got all that cleaned out, then I hooked up the gas tank. A little gas in the tank, a little in the carb, a touch of key and she started to sputter to life. The carb will need a cleaning but for now a little choke and she runs enough to start testing and purging the hydro.

I had the rear off the ground, I pushed the direction lever forward and the tire start spinning, In the wrong direction. They were going backwards. I pull the lever backwards into reverse and the tires start spinning forwards. EGADS Watson sumting not right!!! There is no way to hook the hydro lines backwards (This is called a divorced/separated hydrostat, the pump and motor are only connected by a set of hard lines). I thought possibly that the external relief valve could be hooked up backwards and causing this (wishfull thinking) I check it against the D160 and everything is hooked up the same. I start getting worried that something is wrong with swash plate or pump. I start scratching my head and come inside to hit the books and the boards.

After about an hour of scouring the web and books I finally get a clue in the sundstrand manual. I find a pic of the motor in the rebuild section. I new that the original owner had been into the motor so I start checking the pic carefully. The motor has a fixed swash plate. Its part of the motor housing, I start to have hope! I check the pic carefully and see that there is a difference in shape between the top and bottom of the housing. I run outside to check my housing, it looks different than the pic but the top and bottom are different. I check it against the D160. The d160 motor housing has the webbing on the top and the smooth side underneath. The 200 has the smooth side on top and the webbing underneath. AHA Watson, i think we have found the problem! My housing is on upside down which puts the swash palte 180 out. Its 4 bolts holding the housing on. I remove them but there isnt enough room between the housing and the frame to flip it. I have to remove a snap ring so that i can pull the housing back more. I get it flipped and everything back together when I notice pieces of the gasket had fallen into my catch bucket. I give it a try anyway and it worked right, forward was forward reverse was reverse! Yippie!!

I have to pull the housing off so that i can make a gasket. I get to see slippers for the first time and are they small or what. i thought they would be much bigger. At this point I am terrified that they will fall out but it dosent happen. I only have cork gasket material on hand so it will have to work. Cork dosent hammer cut as well as paper so I get a good impression on the material and start cutting it. It took a good hour to make the gasket. Its getting to be close to 5pm now so I am getting a little anxious to get this big stuff done. I race out of the shop with the new gasket. I put it all back together. Start the engine and no major leaks. I do have on leak around a bolt, lower left one. I had read about needing a sealing washer on one of the bolts but I didnt know which one and there wasnt one there to begin with. I remove the one bolt, head back to the shop. I take a piece of the cork gasket and cut it to fit a correct size washer, then i make a hole in the gasket material. Back at the shed, I stack the gasket then the washer and put the bolt through. I tighten it up, hit the ignition, and try out the hydro. No leaks!!!

The rest of the evening is spent in a mad rush of flailing wrenches trying to beat sundown. It was a tie, the last bolt was put in by feel. I take a slow trip to the shop to pump up the tires. Put a little more gas in the tank, then a victory lap with the lights on. All of them work BTW. It had to have 1/2 choke and at least 1/2 throttle but she runs and runs smooooooth. It is very quiet with the factory mufflers on it. I can even have a conversation without yelling.

She is now resting back in the shed, mostly put back together. Over the next week or two I will get the carb cleaned, fad up what i need for the turning brake, finish installing the 3PTH, get the part for the parking brake and give her a good cleaning. Oh and make a vid or two. If i am lucky, she will be mowing next weekend.

Sorry for the long post but it was alot happening today that I had to share.

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Posted April 07, 2012 - 09:45 PM

:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: Great news.....and looking forward to you're video driving, with your wife narrating! :thumbs:
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Posted April 07, 2012 - 11:15 PM

Great New! Congratulations on that! Show off the pics when you get the chance.
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Posted April 08, 2012 - 08:57 AM

Now there is some fantastic news. Good catch on the plate and I too, look forward to the pics and vids




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