Jump to content

Nominations for Tractor of the Month
Garden Tractors and Parts on eBay



Photo
- - - - -

Help &/or Advise About A 442/446

case 442 446

  • Please log in to reply
64 replies to this topic

#1 Toolpartzman OFFLINE  

Toolpartzman

    Fun With Horsepower

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Member No: 7171
  • 468 Thanks
  • 1,280 posts
  • Location: Little Rock,AR

Posted March 09, 2012 - 03:16 PM

I was told that these were both 446's. 1 with engine/no deck ,hood, or grill and # 2 No engine but had deck, hood and grill. My thinking was perhaps build 1 from the pair. NOW it seems #1 is a '72 442 with the K301 12hp Kohler, Not the Onan, but it appears hyd components, pulleys etc are there.(no Heat exchanger) The 446 is a '73 and the pump is ALSO there but no engine adapter etc)

I'd prefer to be working with 16HP vs 12 and the frame/tin/etc is better on the 446. SO:
What parts do the two share and what would YOU do OR suggest I do ?(keeping it clean of course) Thanks,Lee

2012030920120309_01.JPG 2012030920120309_01_01.JPG 2012030920120309_01_02.JPG 2012030920120309_01_03.JPG 2012030920120309_01_04.JPG

Edited by Toolpartzman, March 09, 2012 - 03:22 PM.


#2 mjodrey OFFLINE  

mjodrey

    Accumulator

  • Senior Member
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 92
  • 2,343 Thanks
  • 13,481 posts
  • Location: Upper Granville, Nova Scotia, Canada

Posted March 09, 2012 - 03:55 PM

Yes,the 446 had the 16hp Onan. I do believe the 442 had an inch or two shorter wheelbase than the 446,but I may be wrong on that.I can't seem to find my specs on them.

Edited by mjodrey, March 09, 2012 - 03:56 PM.

  • Toolpartzman said thank you

#3 190forklift OFFLINE  

190forklift

    New Member

  • Member
  • Member No: 6378
  • 36 Thanks
  • 30 posts
  • Location: NW Ohio

Posted March 09, 2012 - 03:56 PM

I would do the 442, its more collectable, oil cooler might work some of them have the outlet at a different corner. need more pic,s so we can see what your dealing with. 190forklift aka steve guider.
  • Texas Deere and Horse, CASENUT and Toolpartzman have said thanks

#4 jms180 ONLINE  

jms180

    Tractorholic

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 1266
  • 927 Thanks
  • 1,219 posts
  • Location: Harvest Alabama

Posted March 09, 2012 - 04:21 PM

I found this info at tractordata.com hope it is helpful

Engine: Case 442
Type:
Kohler K301AS
Cylinders:
1
Bore/Stroke:
3.375x3.25 inches [86 x 83 mm]
Displacement:
29.07 ci [0.5 L]



Engine: Case 446
Type:
Onan B43M
Cylinders:
2
Bore/Stroke:
3.25x2.62 inches [83 x 67 mm]
Displacement:
43.7 ci [0.7 L]
Power:
16 hp [11.9 kW]

Edited by jms180, March 09, 2012 - 04:53 PM.

  • Toolpartzman said thank you

#5 Toolpartzman OFFLINE  

Toolpartzman

    Fun With Horsepower

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Member No: 7171
  • 468 Thanks
  • 1,280 posts
  • Location: Little Rock,AR

Posted March 09, 2012 - 05:07 PM

Yes,the 446 had the 16hp Onan. I do believe the 442 had an inch or two shorter wheelbase than the 446,but I may be wrong on that.I can't seem to find my specs on them.

Now that you mention it Maynard, I think I read that somewhere also.

#6 Toolpartzman OFFLINE  

Toolpartzman

    Fun With Horsepower

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Member No: 7171
  • 468 Thanks
  • 1,280 posts
  • Location: Little Rock,AR

Posted March 09, 2012 - 05:11 PM

I would do the 442, its more collectable, oil cooler might work some of them have the outlet at a different corner. need more pic,s so we can see what your dealing with. 190forklift aka steve guider.

Thanks , yes I was wondering which was the better tractor-I've seen some horror stories about the Onan. but still don't know if they share rear-ends , drive etc and I've looked about everywhere.

#7 Toolpartzman OFFLINE  

Toolpartzman

    Fun With Horsepower

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Member No: 7171
  • 468 Thanks
  • 1,280 posts
  • Location: Little Rock,AR

Posted March 09, 2012 - 05:23 PM

Maybe some of the Case guys could tell the reason that the service/parts manuals are s# specific-That would indicate that practically every production run is different or ?? The 442 is 9659153
and the 446 is 9679110.

What I'm getting at is the 442 is badly rusted etc. and I'm trying justify buying both or if I build from just the 446, I may find I need some pieces off the 442 ??--Does that make sense? If they won't interchange then I have another issue.

#8 mjodrey OFFLINE  

mjodrey

    Accumulator

  • Senior Member
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 92
  • 2,343 Thanks
  • 13,481 posts
  • Location: Upper Granville, Nova Scotia, Canada

Posted March 09, 2012 - 05:56 PM

Lee,can you post the PIN # for both tractors ? It is on the ID plate on the dash.

#9 Toolpartzman OFFLINE  

Toolpartzman

    Fun With Horsepower

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Member No: 7171
  • 468 Thanks
  • 1,280 posts
  • Location: Little Rock,AR

Posted March 09, 2012 - 06:07 PM

Lee,can you post the PIN # for both tractors ? It is on the ID plate on the dash.

442= 9659153 ( '72?) 446= 9679110 ('73?) Now I assumed that was the SN. Only two numbers
on the plate were model and those.( I had to go back to the hosue for my reading spectacles, so if there's another one
I sure could have missed it. :smilewink:

Edited by Toolpartzman, March 10, 2012 - 06:48 AM.


#10 CASENUT OFFLINE  

CASENUT

    Tractorholic

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 1974
  • 501 Thanks
  • 865 posts
  • Location: Sylvania, OH

Posted March 09, 2012 - 07:15 PM

Listen man Steve Guider tells you the 442 is more collectable...jump on it! Nice to see him back in the forums
  • Toolpartzman said thank you

#11 Rick OFFLINE  

Rick

    Tractorholic

  • Senior Member
  • Member No: 344
  • 15 Thanks
  • 168 posts
  • Location: Hagerstown MD.

Posted March 09, 2012 - 08:11 PM

The 442 and the 446 both have the same rearend,I have one of each of them and they are the same.
  • Toolpartzman said thank you

#12 Toolpartzman OFFLINE  

Toolpartzman

    Fun With Horsepower

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Member No: 7171
  • 468 Thanks
  • 1,280 posts
  • Location: Little Rock,AR

Posted March 10, 2012 - 06:47 AM

The 442 and the 446 both have the same rearend,I have one of each of them and they are the same.

Geat Rick-Thats the info , I'm after--Any other similarities? :worshippy1:

#13 Billygoat OFFLINE  

Billygoat

    Tractorholic

  • Senior Member
  • Member No: 2454
  • 76 Thanks
  • 206 posts

Posted March 11, 2012 - 08:33 AM

Both are known as Sunset models. The wheelbase should be the same on these. Using the PIN numbers you posted, you can get the parts manuals and compare part#s to see what is an exact exchange. The are many parts that have been changed over the years, but will still work. An example would be the tie rod on my '74-444, it's supposed to be a 1/2" solid rod. On my '76-444 it's supposed to be a tubular rod. The '74 has a tubular rod as does the '76. Parts manuals, service manuals, etc. are available online for free if you look around a bit. The frames are different as the 442 has a setup for the Kohler, and the 446 is cut out for the Onan.
  • Toolpartzman said thank you

#14 Toolpartzman OFFLINE  

Toolpartzman

    Fun With Horsepower

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Member No: 7171
  • 468 Thanks
  • 1,280 posts
  • Location: Little Rock,AR

Posted March 11, 2012 - 08:57 AM

Thankx everyone-I'm still digging around for info but the decision is made --Both :thumbs:

#15 olcowhand ONLINE  

olcowhand

    Red Tractor Nut & Diesel Addict

  • Staff Admin
  • Staff
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Sponsor
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 20
  • 35,653 Thanks
  • 29,841 posts
  • Location: South Central Kentucky

Posted March 11, 2012 - 09:00 AM

I've never seen a 442 at any shows around Ky. 446's are everywhere. Another thing...while I love my Onan engines, parts aren't nearly as easy to get as Kohler parts.
  • Toolpartzman said thank you





Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: case, 442, 446

Top