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[Toolpartzman]

I was told that these were both 446's. 1 with engine/no deck ,hood, or grill and # 2 No engine but had deck, hood and grill. My thinking was perhaps build 1 from the pair. NOW it seems #1 is a '72 442 with the K301 12hp Kohler, Not the Onan, but it appears hyd components, pulleys etc are there.(no Heat exchanger) The 446 is a '73 and the pump is ALSO there but no engine adapter etc)

I'd prefer to be working with 16HP vs 12 and the frame/tin/etc is better on the 446. SO:
What parts do the two share and what would YOU do OR suggest I do ?(keeping it clean of course) Thanks,Lee

Edited by Toolpartzman, March 09, 2012 - 03:22 PM.

[mjodrey]

Yes,the 446 had the 16hp Onan. I do believe the 442 had an inch or two shorter wheelbase than the 446,but I may be wrong on that.I can't seem to find my specs on them.

Edited by mjodrey, March 09, 2012 - 03:56 PM.

[190forklift]

I would do the 442, its more collectable, oil cooler might work some of them have the outlet at a different corner. need more pic,s so we can see what your dealing with. 190forklift aka steve guider.

[jms180]

I found this info at tractordata.com hope it is helpful

Engine: Case 442
Type:
Kohler K301AS
Cylinders:
1
Bore/Stroke:
3.375x3.25 inches [86 x 83 mm]
Displacement:
29.07 ci [0.5 L]



Engine: Case 446
Type:
Onan B43M
Cylinders:
2
Bore/Stroke:
3.25x2.62 inches [83 x 67 mm]
Displacement:
43.7 ci [0.7 L]
Power:
16 hp [11.9 kW]

Edited by jms180, March 09, 2012 - 04:53 PM.

[Toolpartzman]

Yes,the 446 had the 16hp Onan. I do believe the 442 had an inch or two shorter wheelbase than the 446,but I may be wrong on that.I can't seem to find my specs on them.

Now that you mention it Maynard, I think I read that somewhere also.

[Toolpartzman]

I would do the 442, its more collectable, oil cooler might work some of them have the outlet at a different corner. need more pic,s so we can see what your dealing with. 190forklift aka steve guider.

Thanks , yes I was wondering which was the better tractor-I've seen some horror stories about the Onan. but still don't know if they share rear-ends , drive etc and I've looked about everywhere.

[Toolpartzman]

Maybe some of the Case guys could tell the reason that the service/parts manuals are s# specific-That would indicate that practically every production run is different or ?? The 442 is 9659153
and the 446 is 9679110.

What I'm getting at is the 442 is badly rusted etc. and I'm trying justify buying both or if I build from just the 446, I may find I need some pieces off the 442 ??--Does that make sense? If they won't interchange then I have another issue.

[mjodrey]

Lee,can you post the PIN # for both tractors ? It is on the ID plate on the dash.

[Toolpartzman]

Lee,can you post the PIN # for both tractors ? It is on the ID plate on the dash.

442= 9659153 ( '72?) 446= 9679110 ('73?) Now I assumed that was the SN. Only two numbers
on the plate were model and those.( I had to go back to the hosue for my reading spectacles, so if there's another one
I sure could have missed it.

Edited by Toolpartzman, March 10, 2012 - 06:48 AM.

[CASENUT]

Listen man Steve Guider tells you the 442 is more collectable...jump on it! Nice to see him back in the forums

[Rick]

The 442 and the 446 both have the same rearend,I have one of each of them and they are the same.

[Toolpartzman]

The 442 and the 446 both have the same rearend,I have one of each of them and they are the same.

Geat Rick-Thats the info , I'm after--Any other similarities?

[Billygoat]

Both are known as Sunset models. The wheelbase should be the same on these. Using the PIN numbers you posted, you can get the parts manuals and compare part#s to see what is an exact exchange. The are many parts that have been changed over the years, but will still work. An example would be the tie rod on my '74-444, it's supposed to be a 1/2" solid rod. On my '76-444 it's supposed to be a tubular rod. The '74 has a tubular rod as does the '76. Parts manuals, service manuals, etc. are available online for free if you look around a bit. The frames are different as the 442 has a setup for the Kohler, and the 446 is cut out for the Onan.

[Toolpartzman]

Thankx everyone-I'm still digging around for info but the decision is made --Both

[olcowhand]

I've never seen a 442 at any shows around Ky. 446's are everywhere. Another thing...while I love my Onan engines, parts aren't nearly as easy to get as Kohler parts.