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#1 fort apache OFFLINE  

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Posted February 14, 2012 - 10:52 AM

I fired up my tractor saturday to finally move my stubborn sqaure bale feeder. The ground was frozen, so I could finally pull it out without spinning tires cause this thing is short, but tall, and heavy. I think its made from an very old truck frame. My neighbors 4x4 3/4 ton chevy couldn't pull it out the other day as he couldn't get traction.

I pulled up slowy (first gear) to the trailer to hook it up, crossing a shallow frozen rut, when suddenly i felt the steering jar and then i was stuck, just spinning wheels. I looked down and my fancy new tie rod was bent and my front wheels were every which way. I couldn't do anything but laugh. I jacked it up and put the old tie rod back on. I guess all thread isn't strong enough for tie rods.

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Posted February 14, 2012 - 11:00 AM

You may have to slide a piece of tubing over the top to give it more strength.
You could also just weld short pieces of threaded rod in the tube for adjustment. The tube should be stronger than threaded rod.
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Posted February 14, 2012 - 11:01 AM

Wow! i guess your not going anywhere like that.I hope you get her all fixed up.
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Posted February 14, 2012 - 11:04 AM

Boy, I'll bet that was a surprise when you saw it. You need something stronger than normal all thread. It's pretty soft like a grade 2 bolt. You can usually get hardened all thread which would be quite a bit stronger. Like Ducky said you could strengthen it also.
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Posted February 14, 2012 - 11:37 AM

Your steering needs stops. I'll show a picture of my steering stops that will prevent this from happening. I'm not sure of what stops yours would have had originally or if it did have any. That tie rod does look awful light for that tractor.

As you can see in these pictures, I have bolts driven into holes in such a way to keep the front wheels from over steering although I don't think I could bend my tie rod if I wanted to.
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Posted February 14, 2012 - 11:47 AM

The prior owner of mine had slid a piece of heavy tubing over the top of the one on my tractor, has worked well for years.
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Posted February 14, 2012 - 11:52 AM

Haha, im glad you got it fixed. Threaded rod isn't very strong, at all. You should have a little piece that sticks up that catches the tie rod, with the tie rod handled it doesn't work though. I knee you would be able to pull the bailer!
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Posted February 14, 2012 - 12:22 PM

Thanks to everyone for the advice. I saw your stops tucker, mine has stops on top like Ryan said, they don't work when the rod bends. The rod ends seem to be strong though. They are Oregon brand aftermarket ends. I'll probably just keep using the old rod for awhile. It works fine, just is bent up and nasty and welded up.

I was suprised the tractor pulled the feeder so easily. The feeder makes my ranger squirrely when I pull it. Finally found a set of weights today! Front and back. I'm going to get them tomorrow if they are still there.

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Posted February 14, 2012 - 12:27 PM

Had similar happen to my custom diesel Bush Hog tractor when I went to use the 3pt rear blade to level dirt atop my silage pit wall last summer. There is a water diversion ditch I had to cross, and the wheel on the lone end of the tie rod hit a ball of dirt, & the heavy load folded the tie rod. After that, I built a much stronger tie rod & no problems since. Mine had spindle stops, so not quite the same as yours. Same result though...no steering!

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Posted February 14, 2012 - 02:31 PM

Too bad you just missed the deadline for featured tractor, look what I broke. I feel that would be a pretty good contender! :mecry:

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Posted February 14, 2012 - 03:00 PM

my panzer does that all the time

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Posted February 14, 2012 - 04:20 PM

some thing to look at on mine it just has all thread rod also

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Posted February 14, 2012 - 04:58 PM

Lovin your tierod looks like it might of come off of an old Farmall Cub.Those are pretty stout.
That gives me an idea.

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Posted February 15, 2012 - 07:27 PM

Did that once with my 2414 with loader. Trying to level my drive with wash out valleys/ridges. Caught front tire in a valley, yanked wheel out of my hands and found it 90* to outside and bent steer link rod. I made another from 3/8" pipe and hard/fine thread bolts welded into ends with long enough threads to adjust. Seemed to be trouble free after that. The PK factory put a pipe over the rod and usually welded to one nut that turns on end of that rod. Looks like homemade fix, but was later factory build. Guess they had trouble too!

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Posted February 15, 2012 - 07:54 PM

Lovin your tierod looks like it might of come off of an old Farmall Cub.Those are pretty stout.
That gives me an idea.


I don't know what farmalls used b Im 99% sure its factory. The ends are even the same setup as the ends of the drag link.




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