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Posted January 25, 2012 - 06:54 AM

It dosent Look like a Bolens accessory to me....

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Posted January 25, 2012 - 08:13 AM

It dosent Look like a Bolens accessory to me....


Nor me either.
It just looks like it mounts similar to the way one would mount on a tube frame.

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Posted January 25, 2012 - 08:48 AM

Are you sure it's a factory made unit ?
It looks like something that I would come up with for a drive reduction.

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Posted January 25, 2012 - 10:27 AM

This is a picture of blackjackjakexxix tractor I found in the gallery pictures. If you look close to the front end below the hood mount, I am starting to think that it may be a Bolens attachment. The mounting bolts would go where there is a bolt in the frame already and the the support rods would mount in the holes that are open on his frame above the mounting bolt. Could that be right?
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Posted January 25, 2012 - 11:01 AM

It looks like that might work. I've never been around Bolens so don't know it the belt pulley would line up to drive the unit. As JD Crawler said, I suspect it is homemade but could be used to drive an elevator or stationary machine. Back in the days when square hay bales were used a lot it was not unusual to keep one small tractor dedicated to runnung an elevator to move the bales off the rack and into the hay mow.
Most were small farm tractors, but a few used a GT too. I know my wifes grandfather used a Cub Cadet for that purpose.

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Posted January 25, 2012 - 01:20 PM

Rick's HT23 is a Large Frame Bolens, and mounts are different. If you are talking about those two "things" that are on an almost direct line down, from the end of the exhaust, and under the axle...those are Auxiliary Hydraulic connections. They are used for things like angling a front blade.

Here's a couple of good pics of the front of a 1971 1256 tube frame showing the mounting tabs and PTO, and a side view a 1964 800 This is universal through the tube frame series. On the 800 you can see the universal going to the front reel mower that I showed above.


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Posted January 25, 2012 - 01:36 PM

Tim

What are the inside to inside, and outside to outside dimensions of the U-shaped mounting piece? I'm also assuming that those are bolts in the holes?

That would help determine if it might possibly mount on a Bolens.

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Posted January 25, 2012 - 02:08 PM

Are you sure it's a factory made unit ?
It looks like something that I would come up with for a drive reduction.


The unit does look partially homemeade to me

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Posted January 25, 2012 - 02:38 PM

The inside to inside measures 10 inches. The outside to outside is 10 1/2 in. I don't think that no one could have homemade this thing. It looks too professionally built.

Edited by timtractor, January 26, 2012 - 10:24 AM.


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Posted January 25, 2012 - 03:09 PM

Just measured my 1256. The tabs are 9 3/8" outside to outside.

Also measured the mounting plate on the 405A Sickle-MO. It's 9 5/8" inside to inside and goes around the axle tabs.

10" would be pretty sloppy, unless you used bolts and "squeezed" the mount. With them only being 1/4" stock that would be possible.

Bolens normally just use pins for the mounts.

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What puzzles me is why did they use a belt on the "input" side, and a chain on the "output" side? Definately odd.

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Posted January 25, 2012 - 03:13 PM

I don't think that no one could have homemade this thing. It looks too professionally built.

That's quite a statement.
Obviously, you haven't seen any of the homebuilt projects that some of the members here have posted.

But you may be right about it being factory built.
If I had built it, all the sharp corners on the angle iron pieces would have been rounded off and that chain guard would have been enclosed in more so you couldn't get your hand in there.

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Posted January 25, 2012 - 03:21 PM

That's quite a statement.
Obviously, you haven't seen any of the homebuilt projects that some of the members here have posted.

But you may be right about it being factory built.
If I had built it, all the sharp corners on the angle iron pieces would have been rounded off and that chain guard would have been enclosed in more so you couldn't get your hand in there.


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Posted January 25, 2012 - 03:40 PM

What puzzles me is why did they use a belt on the "input" side, and a chain on the "output" side? Definately odd.


The belt is better for the first reduction, as the chain will run at a lower speed than if it were the first reduction. The chain will wear much slower as the final reduction.
The belt really doesn't care, but a belt does much better at higher speeds than slow.
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Posted January 25, 2012 - 06:02 PM

One of the reasons I asked if the end was truly square, didn't someone have an "Almost" square end that went into a universal?

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Posted January 26, 2012 - 01:53 AM

Yeah...Bolens. The "standard" Bolens universal is 3/4" x 7/8".




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