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#1 KennyP ONLINE  

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Posted January 22, 2012 - 03:26 PM

I have been playing on Sketchup again. Wanted a 3-Point for the GTV/16, didn't want to cut the complete early 3-point I have. So I started 'sketching'. There are a few extra lines, mainly for reference. Here ya go:
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Posted January 22, 2012 - 05:39 PM

Great hitch setup Kenny, I assume you will be using a hydraulic cylinder in the middle to lift and lower?
Will the top link mount to that same rockshaft bracket as the cylinder?
I see the lower arms pin to the factory sleeve hitch mounting holes.
What are you planning for stabilizers, just chains or turnbuckles?
Also, are you trying to be more like Keith? LOL

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Posted January 22, 2012 - 06:37 PM

Copying someone's work is the highest form of flattery :thumbs:

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Posted January 22, 2012 - 07:15 PM

Keith, yours was the inspiration. Gave it a lot of thought. Wanted to do this on the Ford, may yet.
Casey, I hope to have hyd. on this tractor in the summer. Not sure how the cylinder will be yet.
Top link is still in planning, probably get one from TSC. And I'll use chains for stabilizers, not much room for turnbuckles.
Thought I'd throw it out here and see if more ideas come about. The rockshaft is in the same location as the one for the sleeve hitch. May be able to use the manual lift for a while, has a spring assist.
I can rotate the view if need be. Right now I am deciding on the top of the levelers. Should have at least 14" of lift, probably more.
I may give the tires a bit more clearance to the bends. That will lengthen the lower links a bit, no problem right now.
It will be a full Cat 0, not a Sears Cat 0.
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Posted January 22, 2012 - 07:58 PM

Sears Cat 0 is easier to find implements for. I have both sets of lower lift arms for my 1855. I can find sears stuff all day any day, cant find any used normal Cat 0. Maybe make a set of both.

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Posted January 23, 2012 - 04:57 AM

I guess it depends on your geographical location, up here niether is as popular as a sleeve hitch.
Kenny, if at all possible , pull from the axles like the Ford, and try to keep the arms as straight as possible ,this way you can grab anything with them. An arm 18-20" long, 14" at the tractor and 18-19" at the other end when relaxed is about perfect. Make the rocker shaft and arms as wide as need be , offsets are a pain , especially when plowing, and they limit side to side travel.
I have both setups running ,and tested, the straight arms are the easiest to use hands down!

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Posted January 23, 2012 - 05:29 AM

Keith, the hard part is his tires are in the way for straight arms, especially where he is pulling from, which is a factory designed pull point. The transaxles are aluminum so you can't really attach to them. Kenny, what tire size are you running on that, and the wheel backspace, if you could find another wheel/tire combo that offsets out just a little more than you would be able to run straight arms. One more thing to think about, could you build a framework that looks like my MTD sleeve hitch and use something like that as a starting point? it gets the arms mounted back away from the tractor tires a little so straight arms might be easier, just a thought.

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Posted January 23, 2012 - 06:02 AM

The rig I had used cast steel axle tubes, , anyway you can get straight arms on it, only need a max of 20" wide at the implement end. And for Sears stuff I think its 14" or there abouts. Some where I have all the geometry for linkages, I need to dig this stuff up so I can make up a few more parts , as someone wants a set for their Ford.

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Posted January 23, 2012 - 06:03 AM

Casey, this has 26X12's on it. Wheels have a pretty good offset to the outside. The slanted piece is 12.5" wide. I do have a complete Sears 3-Point, model 917.253110. Afraid I would bend it, plus would have to modify to fit. Handle won't work with my fender pan. Might even sell it or trade for some hydraulic parts. Since I had to modify, why not use heavier material and start from scratch. I can always build 2 sets of lower links, leave one set straight for Sears stuff.
Haven't found any Sears three point stuff around here. Figured I'd build my own attachments.
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First pic is the 26X12's, second was the 23X10.50's. The lower links will use the stock sleeve hitch mounts. Wider wheels would be a help.

P.S. These lower arms will work on the Ford also!

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Posted January 23, 2012 - 06:22 AM

So you must be using Cub Cadet 12x8.5 rims with your tires. I would think you could make a hitch like the MTD that sets off the back and ties to the sides of the frame and drawbar was what I meant, not to modify the Sears 3 point. Why have 2 sets of arms, smart man like yourself would use pin balls on each end of the lower links and make the lift linkages pin onto the rockshaft cam arms and then have the lift links on the outside of the rockshaft cam arms for regular Cat 0 or unpin the lift links and repin them on the insides of the rockshaft cam arms for the Sears stuff, if that makes sense.

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Posted January 23, 2012 - 06:26 AM

By the way Kenny, that is some awesome fender fill on those 26x12s. I could sell you some 12x8.5 wheels with centers that you could cut out and weld back into them in with a lot of offset if you want.

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Posted January 23, 2012 - 06:50 AM

Those are the stock GTV wheels. 8.5" wheels would be nice, don't think I can afford the shipping from WV.
I hear what you are saying, Casey. Just be simpler (to me) to have 2 sets of arms.

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Posted January 23, 2012 - 06:58 AM

I can see it now Kenny, where did I put that other arm... oh, there it is (trip, fall, utter some words)... every time I need to switch lower links it costs an arm and a leg LOL.

I hear what you are saying about the shipping Kenny.

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Posted January 23, 2012 - 07:02 AM

What is the width between those monster tires?

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Posted January 23, 2012 - 07:07 AM

Don't remember right off, but not much more than 17-18". That sleeve hitch is about 13" inside. Don't plan to plow with it, more blade work than anything.




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