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#1 Thops OFFLINE  

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Posted January 22, 2012 - 04:43 AM

Hi !
I'm a new member here and from far away Sweden :wave:
English is not my native language, so please excuse my writing.

I have a Gilson garden tractor, i think i once was a lawnmower, but when i bought it i was rebuilt to a snow plow. Now it's used for many things, but to the issue.

I have trouble with the engine, it's a Briggs & Stratton, but the model i can't find out.
I suspect that it's the coil that's broken and i need to find a replacement so i supose i need the model of the engine to get the right one.

The model of the tractor is 53040 46317 and the serial is 934A1 935

Can anyone please help me out with information about this.
I'm also greatful for any documetation regarding the Gilson 53040 and the engine because there is probably a lot more to be done :smile1:

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Posted January 22, 2012 - 05:50 AM

There should be some numbers stamped into the cover on the motor. There should be 3 sets of numbers. We would need this to know the size and year of the motor.

Also welcome to the forum.

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Posted January 22, 2012 - 05:50 AM

Thops, välkommen till forum.Glad att ni är med oss.

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Posted January 22, 2012 - 06:11 AM

Welcome! I checked the manuals section, 53018 (Swedish version) is the closest I can find. Hopefully someone will be along shortly that can help. Yes, the 3 sets of #'s on the engine would really help pin it down.
Maynard, maybe you can help here, since you speak the language.

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Posted January 22, 2012 - 06:14 AM

Maynard, maybe you can help here, since you speak the language.



I'm only using the translator.Thought it would make him feel more at home.

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Posted January 22, 2012 - 06:16 AM

There should be some numbers stamped into the cover on the motor. There should be 3 sets of numbers. We would need this to know the size and year of the motor.

Also welcome to the forum.


Thanks

Can you please give me a hint to where. I have cleaned and searched all places of the engine block that i visible without dismounting the whole engine.

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Posted January 22, 2012 - 06:20 AM

I'm only using the translator.Thought it would make him feel more at home.


Nice gesture, thanks a lot !

I new it was a translator due to the translation of "You", it came out in swedish plural form :-)

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Posted January 22, 2012 - 06:20 AM

They should be on the engine covers. possibly the piece over the flywheel. Hope this didn't have the decal that is long gone.

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Posted January 22, 2012 - 11:00 AM

They should be on the engine covers. possibly the piece over the flywheel. Hope this didn't have the decal that is long gone.


Thanks, i finally found it stamped in to the left coverplate, the one i removed last summer and never mounted back :blush2:

Model : 401707
Type : 0131 01
Code : 79111512

Once, before the dinosaurs went missing, i had a fairly good knowledge about engines,
but now it seems to be all gone....

I have tried to measure and find out if it's the coil that fails, or if it's another problem.
Between the two thin cables at the coil there is no resistance, i think that is as it should.
None of them is shorted to ground, that must be good to.

Now to the part where my memory fails. The one of those cables that is not grounded
should, at some point, have current i think ?? It has not, at least not when the coil is
dismounted but conected. I tried also with the engine running on the starter.

I hope that the problem isn't in the other end of that cable because it seems to be hard
to get there and the snow keeps falling :D

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Posted January 22, 2012 - 04:06 PM

From what I'm finding that is a 16 hp motor built in 1979.

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Posted January 22, 2012 - 04:24 PM

Ok I haven't found how to check them but I think I found a replacement part for $50 USD.

Does this motor have one or two coils?

http://www.partstree...-99&dn=6931007A
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Posted January 23, 2012 - 04:42 AM

Ok I haven't found how to check them but I think I found a replacement part for $50 USD.

Does this motor have one or two coils?

Parts and Diagrams for Briggs and Stratton 401707-0131-99


It has one coil serving both cylinders.

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Posted January 23, 2012 - 05:12 AM

Ok I haven't found how to check them but I think I found a replacement part for $50 USD.

Does this motor have one or two coils?

Parts and Diagrams for Briggs and Stratton 401707-0131-99


Thanks a lot!
Now it seems that i've, with your help, found the right part, and with that information i have found two places to puchase here
in Sweden. The price here is $166 USD or $102 USD.

Now i have to find out if the wiering is done right or the new coil will burn.

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Posted July 19, 2012 - 04:00 AM

Hi again.
Due to a lot of work on the farm, my Gilson project have been resting. :mecry:
It's time to get serious agan.

I have found, and bought, a new coil and i hope i got the right one :laughingteeth:

Now to the next problem, puting it all together an connecting the wireing without destroying anything.

You would think that it's a matter of putting everything back where it was before, but no !
Due to other parts broken i have made a small change in the electrical setup, and that was already f-ed up when i started. :mad2:

Now i would be greatful if someone can provide information about how the wireing for the engine should be, specific for this type of engine,
or in general.

The changes i added was that i removed the starter key/lock (?? don't know the right word i english) and replaced that with a
powerswitch intended for the ignition and a starter button. I don't need a key :laughingteeth:
I think i got the wireing for the starter done right, but i don't know how to connect the wires for the coil and the other things that
i can't see.

Can anybody help me with information about from whrer to where i should connect the wires, it don't seems to be so much
things involved. Power, coil, chargeing, is there more?

Many thanks
/Thops

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Posted July 25, 2012 - 03:45 AM

$20.00 on Ebay
http://www.ebay.com/...=item3a6fd9fca4



That looks like an Older Briggs Oppossed Twin with Points and condensor.The Cast fin Flywheel was used on those.

Are you sure it's not Model number 401701?

if it has points Just cut the wire going to the points and stick a replacement Electronic ignition coil in it's place.The "Kill Wire" that goes to the switch is not Powered so your good to go.

Just hook the Coil kill wire to a toggle switch and hook the other wire coming from the toggle switch to a Ground.


Edited by EricFromPa, July 25, 2012 - 01:56 PM.





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