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Posted October 10, 2012 - 06:37 PM

Looks like the green belt isn't worn...just a 1/2" wide belt vs a 5/8" blue one. I think it just had the wrong belt to begin with.

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Posted October 10, 2012 - 07:04 PM

According to the part no. in the parts list and also in the Belt & Blade Reference for the 410, it should be a 1/2" wide belt.

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Posted October 10, 2012 - 07:12 PM

According to the part no. in the parts list and also in the Belt & Blade Reference for the 410, it should be a 1/2" wide belt.


That's what I was thinking, as it was a 1/2" belt on my Allis 416. The pulleys will allow a 5/8 belt, but the 1/2" belt is designed to run deeper in the pulleys so the pulley sides help guide the belt into the groove. That is needed with the twist the belt has while going through the mule idlers especially, but also for the pto clutch & deck center pulley. A 5/8" belt may actually wear out quicker, or run itself off a pulley.

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Posted October 11, 2012 - 06:00 AM

I couldn't find the belt size. I even looked in the service manual. The old belt measured about the 3/8" mark on the belt measurer. Hopefully the 5/8" x 50" belt I used doesn't do any damage.

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Posted October 15, 2012 - 08:23 PM

what belt are we talking about... the variable has the big wide belt and the deck belt is 81" or 82"...
Im lost... did I not go back far enough in the post... did this have the variable removed?

Summer is slowing down so it's time to do a little more work. I noticed the belt slipping the other day. Amazing how worn the belt is.

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Posted October 16, 2012 - 05:38 AM

what belt are we talking about... the variable has the big wide belt and the deck belt is 81" or 82"...
Im lost... did I not go back far enough in the post... did this have the variable removed?


Chris, I believe you're thinking about the 310 instead of the 410, since you mentioned the variable. Drive Belt on the 410 with standard transmission pulley should be a 49.1" HA (1/2" X 49") belt.

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Posted October 17, 2012 - 08:46 PM

Chris, I believe you're thinking about the 310 instead of the 410, since you mentioned the variable. Drive Belt on the 410 with standard transmission pulley should be a 49.1" HA (1/2" X 49") belt.


Oh, sorry, nevermind...... : )

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Posted October 19, 2012 - 10:21 AM

Thank you for documenting your restoration. The work others are doing helps to motivate me on my Big Ten. If anyone is interested there is one for sale in Providence, RI at http://newlondon.cra...3341229012.html .

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Posted October 22, 2012 - 08:57 AM

Thank you for documenting your restoration. The work others are doing helps to motivate me on my Big Ten. If anyone is interested there is one for sale in Providence, RI at http://newlondon.cra...3341229012.html .

Hey Boyscout,
I have been looking at this tractor for a couple days now and have finally deiced to go take a look tomorrow. As i will also be going down to meet a member from here and get his Toro 3in1 that is for sale in the parts area. I will let you know how it goes.

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Posted October 22, 2012 - 05:48 PM

Does anyone know how much a 410 weighs? I saw in the manual the 310 weighs about 800pounds!!! Thats way more than i would have thought. I could not find the 410 weight anywhere.
Sorry to highjack your thread. I did not want to start a new one for a simple question.
Thank you very much for posting all the great information you did and everyone else did. Its great to see how things should be so i can get an idea at what i am looking at.
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Posted October 22, 2012 - 06:50 PM

Simpletractors.com says 780 to 825 pounds. Check it out http://www.simpletra...s/410_specs.htm . Have a safe trip.

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Posted October 23, 2012 - 09:17 AM

I had to push it on a trailer one time. It was hard. Lol

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Posted October 23, 2012 - 04:26 PM

I went down today and got the tractor. I can't wait to get it going. I will not be doing a full restoration, but i will get everything in working order. I wish i had a trailer. It took me, my brother, and the seller to load it. We used a set of ramps, a comealong, and brute force. Overall it was worth it. I will be sure to start my own thread once i start working on it.

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Posted October 23, 2012 - 09:54 PM

Congratulations. Start with before pictures. Good Luck.

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Posted October 23, 2012 - 10:49 PM

Looked pretty good in the pickup. Best of luck with it!




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