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#76 Cvans ONLINE  

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Posted January 22, 2012 - 10:27 PM

Got to love this forum for all the help available. I also thought about notching the top of the head board for the top of the seat. That's the nice thing about using card board to try things with. Cheap and makes nice patterns.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Tomorrow I order the cylinders and fabricate the linkages.

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Posted January 23, 2012 - 07:53 PM

This is an awesome project you have undertaken! I only wish I had the time to build my thoughts into reality.
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Posted January 23, 2012 - 09:36 PM

I did get the cylinders ordered but that was about it.
We had snow and blowing snow this weekend and it packed like concrete. The old Simplicity 7117 had all it could do to blow the stuff. No time for the shop today.
Hopefully tomorrow I can make some progress.

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Posted January 24, 2012 - 09:17 PM

Today I was able to get the control linkages completed and installed. Temporarily mounted a battery and took her for a drive. Rides very nice with the long frame and I was amazed at how much snow it would go through without chains. Was actually pushing packed snow with the front axle before I had to start going back and forth to get out. I'm going to mount the battery under the seat if there is room otherwise it is going under the bed. Then it is going to get driven up onto the trailer and the rear tires removed. I will soak it with degreaser and then it's off to the car wash.

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Posted January 24, 2012 - 09:50 PM

Glad to hear you made some progress and had a little fun today.

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Posted January 25, 2012 - 09:01 PM

After soaking everything with Gunk engine cleaner I took the dumpster to the car wash.
It helped a lot but not what I was hoping for. :( When it gets warmer I will have to dig out the big pressure washer and try it again.
I got a real shock today when the cylinders I ordered from TN showed up at noon. Needless to say the battery box got put on hold and I started installing the cylinders. Got the hardware made and one cylinder in place. From the dump angle it doesn't look as though there will be much need to scrape out the box.
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Posted January 25, 2012 - 09:04 PM

Neat Chris, if something is still in the box when you're done, it was probably wet.
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Posted January 25, 2012 - 10:18 PM

Lookin good.
Two of those cylinders should be plenty of power.
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Posted January 25, 2012 - 10:38 PM

Chris; This is one heck of a neat project. So this is what you're up to when not on M. T's. Looks like a very workable design and a great job of fabrication. Looking forward to the finished project. Dave
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Posted January 25, 2012 - 11:12 PM

Thanks Dave. Nice to see you hanging around these parts. To be honest, I'm kind of looking forward to the finished product also :smile1:

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Posted January 26, 2012 - 05:18 AM

I have a concern... You are lifting the bed from it's middle... unlike a dump truck in which the cylinder pushes the bed up from the front. The cylinders will have to wok a lot harder in the orientation mounted currently. I think you need to mount them on the frame near the axle down low and hook them to the front of the box.

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Posted January 26, 2012 - 06:07 AM

I think it will work ok that way,and the cylinders won't have to push as far to stand the box up.But I do see what Casey is saying.

Have a look at this one.It is a lot like the one you are building.

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Posted January 26, 2012 - 06:16 AM

Good to see progress, Chris. Could you post a pic of the bed down and the cylinder closed? I might be missing something, but it looks like the cylinder will be pushing more to the rear (than up) when closed. I, like Casey, have a feeling it will be hard to get it to start going up in the front as most of the force will be pushing back against the pivot. Could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time. And I do not have an engineering background. Just hope it will work that way with weight on it.
As far as the cleaning, car washes just don't work as well as they used to.

Maynard, thanks for posting that. I see he didn't have much of a load in the bed, but it worked. Lot shorter bed and the cylinders are near the middle of the bed. Shorter cylinders, so the angle is more up when closed.
I hope I am wrong

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Posted January 26, 2012 - 10:34 AM

I also had concerns about the cylinder angle. I did a search and came up with the same same video that Maynard posted above. I must have stopped, started and replayed that video a dozen times. All I can say is I'm hoping that video wasn't smoke and mirrors. His cylinders are actually at less of a vertical plane than mine. In order to achieve a more vertical cylinder I would have to have the bottom of the cylinder quite a ways below the frame. This would interfere with the brakes.
I can take a photo with the bed down but the angle of the cylinder doesn't change. I've run the bed through the cycle by hand several times to check clearances and can't detect much movement of the cylinder.
By tonight I hope to know more. Hoping for the best:smile1:

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Posted January 26, 2012 - 11:01 AM

I have to agree with Chris' design. He should be able to lift any thing he wants. If you look at these dump trailers they sell for behind pick-ups they have very little cylinder angle and are located to the rear of the trailer and seem to lift OK.
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