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#1 Enginerod ONLINE  

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Posted January 08, 2012 - 01:42 PM

I know some on here have done loader builds, I would appreciate if someone could tell me what size cylinders they used and if one cylinder to roll the bucket is enough. I see Kubota uses one bucket cylinder on their sub-compacts. Thanks.

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Posted January 08, 2012 - 02:34 PM

Also, where would I find the splined coupler to go on these PTO shafts to adapt to the hydraulic pump?

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Posted January 08, 2012 - 06:56 PM

I can't remember what the thread title is, but Member Olcowhand did a great job (as he always does) on his build and would be a good person to answer those questions. i'm sure when he see's the title of this thread he'll be along LOL.

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Posted January 08, 2012 - 07:34 PM

2" bore cylinders

1 curl cylinder is enough. Just will need to have enough leverage. Not hard to do a google for some ideas

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Posted January 08, 2012 - 07:41 PM

An 1.5" double acting lift cylinder will lift all the tractor can handle @ 1500-2000 PSI. I have a Johnson loader on my 1655 and it runs of the hyro charge pump. I do not recommend this as the hydro pump is a bit low on flow and PSI for a loader. You will probably be wanting to use the charge pump to run your "power steering" any way. Use an aux pump with about 8 GPM and you will like the way the loader preforms.

olecowhand has some more info on this first hand and I will bow to him.
He should be around shortly.

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Posted January 08, 2012 - 07:41 PM

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Posted January 08, 2012 - 07:44 PM

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Thanks Mike
That is some good geometry to work off of. That company made some very good and functional equipment.
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Posted January 08, 2012 - 07:59 PM

If you want measurements of the loader I can get them to you

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Posted January 08, 2012 - 08:22 PM

Alot of great information guys, the case spec sheet is very useful,thanks mikebramel. The measurements off the loader would be a big help if it's not too much trouble. Can't wait to get started on this project, I already have a few projects around the yard for it to do.

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Posted January 08, 2012 - 09:44 PM

Found a set of plans online, but I am on the IPad & can't put them in to the manuals. There is another set of plans in the blueprint and drawings section of the manuals too.

http://www.fpga-faq....d_index/fel.pdf

Also saw this pic online Posted Image

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Posted January 08, 2012 - 10:22 PM

These diagrams presented are great info for your build. I will say that I started out with a single bucket tilt cylinder, a 2"x16", and it wasn't enough strength for what I do with matted straw calf bedding. I changed mine to twin 2x16 tilt cylinders & is a great improvement. My lift cylinders are 2 1/2" bore, but 2" are plenty.

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Posted January 09, 2012 - 07:33 AM

Found a set of plans online, but I am on the IPad & can't put them in to the manuals. There is another set of plans in the blueprint and drawings section of the manuals too.

http://www.fpga-faq....d_index/fel.pdf

Also saw this pic online Posted Image


Alan
I will stick them in the manuals section for you.
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Posted January 09, 2012 - 08:14 AM

Thanks again guys you are very helpful, looks like 16" stroke cylinders are enough, for some reason I was thinking I would need 24". The 16 inchers are cheaper so thats good! Wanted to get all the parts bought while I still have the money from selling a tractor, before someone else decides the money should be spent other ways. LOL.

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Posted January 09, 2012 - 08:34 AM

Since you don't have anything bought yet , on my PK loader it has 2" bucket cyl's and there fine using just the bucket but I made a set of clamp-on forks and it doesn't have enough power at times when you want to "roll back" the forks when your trying to keep a level lift , maybe 2 1/2" would be enough , , just a thought Al

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Posted January 09, 2012 - 09:04 AM

Never built a loader, not a hydraulic guru. However, everthing is about leverage and power. If you want to keep a single cylinder, use the longer stroke and attach your cylinder so it runs the full stroke. Big difference between 1000 lbs with a 16 inch lever and 1000 lbs with an 24 inch lever. I think I've seen manufactured loaders with single bucket cylinders. I also remember someone had a front loader with only one side support and a single lift cylinder somewhere on the web. Lots of twisting torque on that combo.




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