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#1 OldBuzzard ONLINE  

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Posted January 04, 2012 - 01:26 PM

Since I got the 3-pt for the 1886, I won't be able to use the tiller for counterweight if it's installed, I'm going to need a BHT (Big Heavy Thing) that I can put on the 3-pt.

I'm thinking that a used beer keg with a rod through it, and filled with concrete just might fill the bill. A "full sized keg holds 15.5 Gal, which according to my calculations is 2.07 Cu Ft.

With concrete being roughly 150 Lb/Cu Ft that would be 300#, plus the weight of the Keg being @ 30# that would give me close to 350# if you figure in the weight of the rod needed to mount the keg.

Now two questions come to mind.

Would the 1886's hydraulics be good enough to 'hold' that much weight in the lifted position?

Once mounted, how wide will the 3-pt spread? A standard keg is 23.3" high, so I would think I would need a 26-28" between the arms to get the keg on the 3-pt.

Can anyone help me with some info. Especially the width of the 3-pt.

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Posted January 04, 2012 - 02:06 PM

How about using a new full (of beer) one and just do progressively smaller lifts as the job goes on.
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Posted January 04, 2012 - 04:05 PM

I'm thinking that 26 to 28 inches is too wide. A cat 1 3 pt implement is 26". Why not just make a box form and mount a piece of 3/4 round through the form to go on the arms. Line the box with plastic for easy removal of the form and pour it full of concrete. That way you can adjust the shape to get the weight you want and when you don't need it on the tractor you can just set it down where you want to store it. Heres the one I built for my x475 when I had it.

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Posted January 04, 2012 - 06:31 PM

How about using a new full (of beer) one and just do progressively smaller lifts as the job goes on.
Sorry the devil made me do it.


Well, there are some serious problems I might encounter if I did that.

First the neighbor and I would be :beerchug:

Which would quickly devolve into :beer::beer::beer:

Then, I would most likely end up :puke2:

Which would be followed by :bash: :spanka: from "the War Department" (AKA wife) :D:D:D

JD... I was thinking of the beer keg for the "Coolness Factor"...especially at shows :D
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Posted January 05, 2012 - 10:12 AM

Why not make a bracket for the 3-point that the keg sits in? Puts the center of the weight a little farther back. Main thing is holding that much weight up, hard on the lift cylinder. Might want to make something to hold it up so all that weight is not on the cylinder all the time. Just my $.02.

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Posted January 05, 2012 - 11:39 AM

BHT (Big Heavy Thing) .


:bigrofl::bigrofl::bigrofl::bigrofl:
I like that.

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Posted January 05, 2012 - 12:30 PM

Your tractors 3 pt is stronger then the one no my PK but I think trying to lock the weight in the raised position would be a good idea , I would think a 300+ lb weight would put a lot of unneeded stress when going over uneven ground and bumps . I just ran a chain from the lift arms around the top link. DSC07515.jpg

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Posted January 05, 2012 - 09:20 PM

I would not put that weight on the 3pt hitch, going over rough terrain the dynamic pressure in the hydraulics will be alot. You may bend the rods

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Posted January 13, 2012 - 06:20 PM

Well, now that I have the new tires loaded with Rim Guard on it which added about 220#, I'm thinking that I can go with a little less weight.

Maybe something like this one:
Beer keg

That will hold right at 1 Cu Ft of concrete which weighs 150# Cu Ft.

So, how about hanging just a bit more than 150# on the 3-pt?




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