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#390706 I Just Need To Say........thank You!

Posted by johndeereelfman on December 03, 2013 - 10:52 PM

I have been a member of this Great website for almost 3 years now, and with the end of 2013 just around the corner, I took some time to remember some of the things that have stood out to me, or things that had happened this past year. Yes, we all have our different brands of tractors that we collect, yes, we butt heads with each other from time to time, and yes, we ride each other about some of the attachment ideas or brain storms that some of the members come up with. But through it all, we manage to find a way to all join together whenever there is a time of need.

 

We prayed for Brian (Texas Deere & Horse) due to hard times when his folks lost their house. We cried when Dale (dstaggs) was taken from us with cancer. We pray for Daniel's (oldcowhand) father while recovering from surgery. We rejoiced for Scott (sacsr) as he is in the final stages of completing his Bush Hog collection. And Thanked God that Travis (trav1s) finally completed his John Deere 120 refurbishment. (just kidding). And now we are called together again, to join in prayer for Bob (Robert Webb) and his wife Kimme, as they travel a road that nobody wants to venture.

 

I guess what I'm trying to point out is this. That no matter how different we are as individuals, or how far apart we may live from one another, we always seem to be able to join together in unity as brothers and sisters, and come together with a family commitment to each other, that you just won't find anywhere else. This place is like no other, and the members here are so dedicated in looking out for each other, and finding a way to reach out and help each other, that it is really hard to grasp if you really think about it. We really have something very special here, and I am just so honored to be able to say that I am a part of it. 

 

So Thank you guys! Thank you all for taking a few minutes, hours, or even days, out of our busy life styles, to give just enough to make a difference to someone else's lives, mine included. You all are truly inspirational whether you admit or not.


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#759825 From MH81 to the Members. (A letter I never wanted to write)

Posted by MH81 on April 02, 2017 - 08:47 PM

This July, I will have been a member here for 7 years. 6 of them have been among the most enjoyable years of my life to date.
This place has been a respite from reality, a reaffirmation that I'm not the only whackjob out there, and a second home full of friends and family where I could share the days events. The Staff that I have worked with here thru 2015 were and are some of the best people I have ever had the pleasure to associate with. I have been proud to wear the logo that signified I belonged to this patchwork quilt of good people. It's to those friends and family that I address this letter.

Over the last 15 months, there has been an ongoing strife behind the scenes. The Staff here has tried tirelessly to keep the issues as little of an imposition to the members as possible. It started quietly with the sale of the site and has crescendoed to the point that I can no longer enjoy the site or the hobby because of it. It is the reason why I am now resigning as a Staff member at GTTalk, effective immediately.

To be fair to the representatives of Carbon Media, I think they had the best of intentions at the start. I was eager to believe the assurances that things would be even better than when George owned the site and they would be as responsive to issues as we had grown accustom to. I was willing to be a Pollyanna and I did myself and the forum no favors by not listening to the little nagging voice in my head. If I had listened to the voice or done some Googling regarding the impacts of CMG ownership... well, I would've been retired a long time ago and would've taken a lot less TUMS over the last year.

Anyways; Forum First being the new mantra, and Nothing Will Change being the assurance, the Staff grabbed the banner and headed forth, doing the same job they always have. Over the last year, many staff members have seen their pride in being a staff member turn to frustration and embarrassment over having to make excuses for the slow response times and/or no action at all. Resignations eventually began and the “Surprise” and “Dismay” from the mgt grew to have a hollow ring. While some of the problems have been resolved (ebay link, missing documents) only thru constant haranguing of the CM staff and in some cases, the GTTalk staff finding creative work arounds, others (forum updates, Contributor Badges, Apparel Items in the Store, Hotmail and other email Signup Issues, Staff Advancement, Forum Software Replacement, etc) have continued to go ignored. To be more specific about who I feel is responsible would be in bad form and not representative to my upbringing. While I probably echo the sentiments of some of the staff, I will just say I am damned tired of it.
Ironically, It is my hope that leaving the staff will accelerate the resolutions of the very issues that are causing my departure.

I have been absent often lately, still checking in at least 2-3 times a day, however, I was only doing maintenance, making sure no one needed my specific help, and reading up on the stuff in Off Topic. That went on until it all came to a head about a week ago. While online, I became nearly depressed... I realized that the last mention of any upgrades had been over a month ago and we were no closer to them than a year previous. It was the same stagnation that I was powerless to correct and believe is slowly strangling the forum. I thought about all the hours we have poured into making it the place it is and I grew saddened. It was at that time that I could no longer bring myself to participate in the forum.
I took a week off. My First “more than 8 consecutive hours away” in 5 years. Oddly, and thanks to the issues, there was no withdrawal.

I rationalized that this is just a hobby, life is too short, and time too valuable. In truth, I just can't be this frustrated anymore without it spilling into my real life. Assuming I will have some extra time in reality, I have committed to being an Officer in our local club and am going to be involved in a community redevelopment project.

I want to finish by saying I am not one bit sorry I have been a part of this. I will always be proud of what we built and the friendships that have been made. It is STILL the best forum on the web.
HOWEVER, the only reason its the best place to be is the people, not the forum. If those people were ever to transport to another forum, well, then THAT would be the best forum on the web. You get the idea.
I plan on remaining a member here, but time will tell what else may transpire.
Oh, and as my last duty as a Moderator, I plan on issuing Casey one last point for old time sake.

May God Bless each of you and keep You Safe, Garden Tractors really do collect the Nicest People.
Sincerely, MH81 / Alan M. Steadman
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#235678 Gttalk Oath

Posted by johndeereelfman on November 17, 2012 - 08:49 PM

As a member of the GTtalk Family, I submit the following oath, for as long as my membership exists:

1. I promise not to judge fellow members on thier restoration abilities, knowledge or feedback input, collection size, and the brand of tractors he or she collects.

2. I promise to give honest and accurate help as needed, but only if I have experienced the same situation first hand myself, and can reflect back to my previous mistakes, to show what I've learned.

3. I will give advice only when requested, and won't use that advice for my own self glory.

4. I will treat all of the members with respect and consider them equal, and will Thank them for any help they offer no matter how great or small.

5. I will help out my fellow members as best as I possibly can, no matter the size of the task.

6. When a member is hurt, I will hurt with him. When a member is rejoicing, I will rejoice with him. When a member needs prayer, I will pray for him.

7. I promise to teach the younger generation to the best of my abilities, and won't be bullheaded when the time is due to pass the torch.

8. I will accept any and all advice given to me, and won't take it personal if the advice isn't something that I wanted to hear. I will not hold a grudge.

9. I will trust in the advice that other members give me, and know that they are wanting to help and are looking out for my best interest.

10. I promise to support this website to the best of my ability, so that others who may not be able to support the site, can still enjoy and get as much out of it as I am.
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#508317 Prayers For Daniel, Olcowhand.

Posted by Texas Deere and Horse on November 05, 2014 - 08:46 AM

Daniel went to the ER last night because his leg swelled up tight. He has blood clots in both lungs and is in ICU and will likely stay in the hospital for at least 5 days. Please PRAY for Daniel and his whole family.
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#573138 ALWAYS WEAR YOUR SEAT BELT

Posted by Little Irish Men on May 11, 2015 - 05:25 PM

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This is my oldest daughter Katherine(21) car,after she rolled it 4 1/2 times , trying to avoid a possum . She said" dad i was only going 35 to 40 mph ", well the Missouri state trooper told me that she was going over 60 or so. Well it doesn't matter she did lived through it and spent 2 days in the hospital she was just banged up really bad . I am posting this for all the young ones out there getting reading to drive and the ones that are driving Please wear your seat belt. The state trooper told me that the seat belt is what kept her in the car and alive.

 

 

Patrick


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#314786 Sad News Today Dale Staggs Passed Away

Posted by bhts on May 03, 2013 - 10:26 AM

I regret to inform everyone that Dale Staggs (AKA dstaggs) passed away yesterday at 4:19 pm from cancer which he had been bravely fighting for a while now. His wife Cheryl called me this morning to let me know. Dale really was one of the good guys. He was a good friend to a lot of us here on GTTalk. He will truly be missed. I had the pleasure of speaking with Dale at least once a week for a couple years now. I do regret never meeting him in person but as we lived so far apart we just couldn't make it work. They are going today to set up his viewing and funeral arrangements and I will let everyone know. As of right now they are thinking his viewing will be tomorrow May 4th and funeral will be Sunday May 5th. They will be held at:

 

Powell Funeral Home

1272 Highway 367 North

Bald Knob, AR 72010

501-724-3201

 

I did ask Cheryl if they wanted donations or flowers and she replied, let everyone decide on their own. I did know by talking to Dale every week that his chemo medicine was costing them thousands per month. So I am going to make a donation to the family. If anyone would like to make a donation to them just message me and I will give you their address.

 

FYI, this is Lynn, Bob's wife, as he just couldn't post this.


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#290169 To Our Friend... Dale Staggs

Posted by johndeereelfman on March 13, 2013 - 07:58 PM

I first met Dale while in the chat room one night, and even though I didn't know much about the man, there was just something I liked about him. We chatted back and forth numerous times after that, mostly small talk, but it almost seemed like we had a special bond with each other. Most times I wouldn't even use the chat room unless I saw Dale was there waiting. Even if I did go into the chat room without Dale, rest assured, it wouldn't be long until he came in.

Dale was there for me when I lost a close friend last year, and he PM'd me almost every night asking how things were going, and how was I holding up. He is a great guy to talk to and he is always there for you to unload your day on. I tried to return the favor of being there for him when he lost his Brother a while back, but I just never felt like I could give as much as Dale does.

I remember one night, Dale asked me for my phone number, as he wanted to call some night just to talk about tractors, and to see what makes me tick. I recall giving him my number, but never did I think he would follow through and call me. Well, he did. I went to bed one night around 9:30 pm, due to having a long hard day, and was sleeping real good, when the phone rang at 1:15 am in the morning. My wife rolled over and answered the phone by saying hello, still half a sleep, and then said who? After she found out his name, she handed me the phone and said it's for you, I think he said Jail Bags? Well, I took the phone call downstairs so she could sleep, and sure enough, it was Dale. He never gave a thought of me being on East Coast Time. It was only after 11:00 pm at his place. Anyway, we must have talked for at least and hour and a half, and even though I needed to be at work at 4:30 am, it was the best conversation I think I ever had.

Dale also liked to make homemade fudge. He PM'd me asking for my mailing address, as he had something he wanted to send. Again, I gave him what he wanted, and then waited. About a week later, I received a box full of various flavors of fudge. The man knows the way to my heart! We ate the fudge and enjoyed every piece. After I told him Thank You for it, he asked if I noticed the texturing to the top of the fudge, and after telling him I did, he told me he did the texturing with his false teeth. They fell out and made a dent, so he figured he'd use them to texture the rest of the fudge.

I miss our friend and Brother, and I miss talking to him. This site just won't be the same without him posting or logging on. I look for him every night I log in, and when I don't see him on, I pray.

Take Care Dale, and I wish you the best! If you have to leave us and head for the pearly gates, then you save a seat for me buddy! We'll have a lot of catching up to do. At least then we'll be able to talk face-to-face! :angel:
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#621969 Classic Tractor Fever Calendars and Garden tractors dvds

Posted by josh deaven on November 06, 2015 - 07:18 PM

Hey Guys, Justed wanted you guys to welcome Classic Tractor Fever to GTtalk! Make sure you check out their website for their Dvds and Calendars. www.classictractors.com When you go to check out. In the shopping cart there is a coupon space. If you put gttalk in that space. You will get a discount on your purchase. Make sure to check George out on the new dvd called Built for Work.

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#549304 Something that bothers me on GTT

Posted by UncleWillie on March 02, 2015 - 05:54 PM

I love this site. It is the one of two sites that I pay to be a member of - the other site I make a lot of money buying and selling on. The members here are mostly great. However, there is one thing I have noticed that drive my bonkers.

 

Anytime someone post a "I want to build a tractor" thread (there have been several in the last year or so) there is a dog pile of posts stating that they shouldn't, instead of posts encouraging them to do it. I don't understand that.

 

I recently posted a question about hydraulics. Most of the answers I got were to buy a front end loader or Skid steer. Somehow wanting to build a tractor or a similar mechanism is met with the same response I would expect if I was asking how to build a nuclear device. Namely "you will hurt yourself".

 

I just don't understand the negativity directed towards someone wanting to creativity solve a problem rather than throw money at it.

 

I am sure that a lot of others are in the same boat I am. I don't have 10 grand to drop on a used skid steer. I live on a partial disability (thanks to a 96 year old man who was still driving) and whatever I can make with scrap metal. What I do have is a lot of metal and parts that I could build something useful out of.

 

SO please, If someone asks about building something, give them advice. Just because you would go buy something doesn't mean we all can. If you can't offer advice wish them good luck and wait and see if they succeed.

 

Think of it like someone saying they want to build a house. Don't tell them they should just buy one because the roof will fall in if they try. Offer them advice on how to keep the roof up.

 

 

Anyhow.  I love this site.


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#544546 Linda Randall Passed On Today

Posted by olcowhand on February 17, 2015 - 04:28 PM

It is with deep regret & sadness to announce that Linda Randall, wife of George Sr (member Grand) and Mother of George (member NUTNDUN, GTtalk's founder), and Grandmother, passed away shortly after 8am EST this morning following a massive heart attack.  Erica, her daughter-in-law called me to let me know & asked I make this known to all the members of GTtalk.

  I had the pleasure of sharing time with her on 2 occasions, and was very glad to have known her.  It saddens me she left this earth so young at only 58 years old.  

  I do not have any info at this time as to arrangements, but we should know something soon.  

Please keep the Randall family in your hearts & prayers.  


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#508763 Prayers For Texas Deere & Horse

Posted by olcowhand on November 06, 2014 - 02:59 PM

Heard back from Joey, Brian's wife, and Brian's surgery didn't end up well.  He is still in the hospital, when he should have been outpatient yesterday.  When they did surgery, a large mass was found.  At this point I am not sure, but I assume it's removed & being biopsied.  Joey is hoping he goes home tonight.  Hang in there brother Brian....we love you man!

  You too Joey, Bailey, and Briley!


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#659243 Reproduction Steering Caps Now In Stock

Posted by blackjackjakexxix on March 02, 2016 - 01:45 PM

I now have reproduction steering caps in stock for the Bolens 900,1000,LK(black) and the 850,1050,1220,1250,1455,these are the ones with the ridges on the outer edge,decal is UV protected,and sealed on top to prevent the decal from peeling,I only have a couple as of now but more on there way,prices as of now are:

900,1000 in Red $25.95 for members
LK (black) $25.95 for members
Husky Man caps 850,1050,1220,1250,1455, $34.95 for members

I can do FREE shipping for members in the lower 48 states

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#273180 Dads

Posted by johndeereelfman on February 04, 2013 - 08:38 PM

We all have them. Some are still with us, others are not. Either way, living or not, he is the man who made us, taught us, and helped us to become who we are today. He was there to teach us how to ride our first bike, fix our broken toys, and to pat us on the back when we did something right. He took us for our first hair cut down at the local barber shop, made us a soap box car out of an old milk crate, built us our first hickory bow and arrow, and gave us our first wippin out behind the house.

 

Sometimes he got made, which caused us to hate him, but when he was proud, it caused us to forgive him. He taught us how to swing a hammer, to throw a fastball, and how to hide the pain when we got knocked down. He told us to be tough and to never cry, even though the pain or punishment hurt. Yet we watched and saw how soft he got whenever Mom walked into the room and gave him a smile. He gave his all for us, and sometimes it felt like days until he returned home from work. Even though he was tired, he always made time for us and Momma.

 

Dad was a good man, and it seemed like everyone knew of him. "Oh, you're Glenn's boy, he's a good man and I like him a lot", words that made me feel proud of my Dad. I was aways referred to as Glenn's boy, and at times I used to think someday he will be referred to as Troy's Dad. But you know, I want to be considered Glenn's boy for a long, long time. I'm proud of my Dad, and appreciate all of the blood, sweat and tears that he gave, to give me the best. He tried to teach me right from wrong, and he was always there to pick me up if things didn't work out. He was always willing to give me advice, no matter if I needed it or not. His example of being a father has helped me to be the best father I can be with my kids and I try to apply Dad's teaching to them. 

 

He's a friend, a companion, a buddy, a tractor partner, a provider, a shelter, an investor, a business consultant, a grandfather, and a conselour. But more than any of these things, He's my Dad!

 

Appreciate the time you have with your Dad if you can, and let him know how much you appreciate all of his efforts throughout the years, in providing you the very best he could. And don't be afraid to tell him you Love him.


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#691233 Something I shared

Posted by MH81 on June 21, 2016 - 03:31 PM

At our local tractor show, our feature was Massey-Harris-Ferguson
We decided to take Dad's TO35

Attached is a picture of it and a Ferguson (Bell City) pull behind picker that was in the fencerow.
Also, there is a picture of the known history of the tractor.
I had a lady come up and tell me that I shouldn't have done that...she didn't come to the tractor show prepared to cry.

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#659887 Vote Now Featured Tractor April 2016

Posted by Talntedmrgreen on March 04, 2016 - 08:27 AM

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#614459 Introducing Alice!

Posted by KennyP on October 09, 2015 - 05:28 AM

I thought I would introduce my 'new' tractor to you folks here. Not sure how many saw the build thread I had going. I started with a 1978 AC 716 6-speed. It was about to be sent out for scrap iron. I liked the looks it has and thought i could make it a better tractor from it. It had been a 'pulling' tractor at some point and the frame had been cut to accept a Kohler Magnum 18 engine. I happened to have one of those looking for a home.

Here's a few before pics.

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I stripped the 6-speed out of it and started installing an Eaton11/Peerless2500 hydrostatic rear end from a Ford LGT145. i also used the foot pedals for Fwd/Rev. This also gave me hydraulic lift for the Cat 0 3-point. It took a little over 2 months to complete the rebuild. I hope to get a decal set for it soon.
Here's a video of it from yesterday.

 


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#545045 One Of Ours Is A Hero !

Posted by Texas Deere and Horse on February 18, 2015 - 09:02 PM

Found this on FB and thought it needed to be shared here as it seems Our very own Daniel "Olecowhand" Perkins is a local Hero around Ball Hollow.

 

Hero of the day is Daniel Perkins.Daniel I don't how know all of us Ball Holler folks can thank you enough. I know we are blessed to have you as a neighbor. Thanks for busting the drifts out and busting out my driveway.

 Ray Purvis.

 

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#80281 Official Joke Thread

Posted by NUTNDUN on July 24, 2011 - 07:31 PM

Dad forwarded me this joke tonight and I got a good chuckle out of it so I though I would share.


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A good laugh for people in the over 50 group !!!

When I bought my Blackberry, I thought about the 30-year business I ran with 1800 employees, all without a cell phone that plays music, takes videos, pictures and communicates with Facebook and Twitter. I signed up under duress for Twitter and Facebook, so my seven kids, their spouses, 13 grandkids and 2 great grand kids could c ommunicate with me in the modern way. I figured I could handle something as simple as Twitter with only 140 characters of space.

That was before one of my grandkids hooked me up for Tweeter, Tweetree, Twhirl, Twitterfon, Tweetie and Twittererific Tweetdeck, Twitpix and something that sends every message to my cell phone and every other program within the texting world.

My phone was beeping every three minutes with the details of everything except the bowel movements of the entire next generation. I am not ready to live like this. I keep my cell phone in the garage in my golf bag.

The kids bought me a GPS for my last birthday because they say I get lost every now and then going over to the grocery store or library. I keep that in a box under my tool bench with the Blue tooth [it's red] phone I am supposed to use when I drive. I wore it once and was standing in line at Barnes and Noble talking to my wife and everyone in the nearest 50 yards was glaring at me. I had to take my hearing aid out to use it, and I got a little loud.

I mean the GPS looked pretty smart on my dash board, but the lady inside that gadget was the most annoying, rudest person I had run into in a long time. Every 10 minutes, she would sarcastically say, "Re-calc-u-lating." You would think that she could be nicer. It was like she could barely tolerate me. She would let go with a deep sigh and then tell me to make a U-turn at the next light. Then if I made a right turn instead. Well, it was not a good relationship.
When I get really lost now, I call my wife and tell her the name of the cross streets and while she is starting to develop the same tone as Gypsy, the GPS lady, at least she loves me.

To be perfectly fra nk, I am still trying to learn how to use the cordless phones in our house. We have had them for 4 years, but I still haven't figured out how I can lose three phones all at once and have run around digging under chair cushions and checking bathrooms and the dirty laundry baskets when the phone rings.

The world is just getting too complex for me. They even mess me up every time I go to the grocery store. You would think they could settle on something themselves but this sudden "Paper or Plastic?" every time I check out just knocks me for a loop. I bought some of those cloth reusable bags to avoid looking confused, but I never remember to take them in with me.

Now I toss it back to them. When they ask me, "Paper or Plastic?" I just say, "Doesn't matter to me. I am bi-sacksual." Then it's their turn to stare at me with a blank look. I was recently asked if I tweet. I answered, No, but I do toot a lot."

P.S. I know some of you are not over 50. I sent it to you to allow you to forward it to those who are.

Us senior citizens don't need anymore gadgets. The tv remote and the garage door remote are about all we can handle.
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#625453 An emotional day- yet very patriotic

Posted by JD DANNELS on November 18, 2015 - 03:02 PM

This morning, our counties last Pearl Harbor survivor was laid to rest.
Lee Lester was on the USS Pennslvania in dry dock on Dec. 7, 1941 after it was repaired, he was on the California in the south pacific for the duration of the war.
I went to school with his daughters and his son married my sister.
I was impressed when I got to the church and the sidewalk was lined with Freedom Riders holding flags.
Several of his grandchildren wore their military uniforms. At the cemetery, a granddaughter(active Army) participated in the gun salute. The Navy officer handed the folded flag to his granddaughters husband.
Jeff is full-time National Guard, and he presented the flag to his father-in-law.

I think the thing that most impressed me was the Freedom Riders Honor Guard, who stood at attention during the graveside service. Most of these guys are older than me, yet endured the blustery, rainy 45degree weather to honor a brother in arms.
Makes you proud to be an American, and know that honor is more than words.
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#258853 I Am So Ashamed...

Posted by David Brown on January 07, 2013 - 09:28 PM

Of my generation.  I'm in my late 40's and was raised by a WWII vet.  I was taught many things such as hard work, pride in your work and do what it takes to get the job done.  I see many in my generation that are not holding true to these values and don't get me started on folks that are younger.  I personally know some very fine upstanding young folks including the ones on this forum so let me be clear when I say, I'm not talking about 100% of the people.  Here's what got me to thinking about this.

 

My dad is 88.  A couple of you have met him.  Has a lot of trouble walking but is strong as an ox in the upper body.  He can still lay me out if he wants to.  The legs are hereditary and I'm afraid mine are starting to show signs as well.  He still lives on his own.  Has a chair lift to the upstairs (had it installed when mom was sick with cancer) but refuses to use it for fear he'll get lazy.  Still gets down to his mailbox unless the snow is too deep.  Takes his garbage can down tot he road (all with the aide of a scooter, but he does it).  He even cuts his grass and takes care of the lawn.  He will drive but only when absolutely necessary and only short distances in the day time.  Hereditary eyes too.  He's doing what needs to be done without bothering anyone unless the situation dictates it.

 

I had to go get a new pressure switch for my water today.  On the way I drove past a house where there was a guy, I would say at or around dad's age, out shoveling snow from around his mailbox.  This stuff isn't fresh guys.  It's partially melted and refrozen so it's half ice.  This old guy was chipping away at it and getting it out from around the mailbox.  What's so special about that?  Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, he was in a WHEELCHAIR!  Not an electric one, a manual wheelchair.

 

I've know another guy all my life, same age as my dad.  Grew up with him basically.  He's not getting around as well as he used to but he NEVER stops.  For the past year he was caring for his cancer stricken wife while restoring a Fergusen 30 tractor for a friend of his.  She has since passed and he took the tractor to it's first show this past fall.  It's beautiful.  He has since started another one!

 

Folks, I don't know about you but that generation (the greatest generation) never ceases to humble me.  We're losing these folks at an alarming rate everyday.  The young don't sit and talk with these folks and learn from them.  I try to every chance I get.  I love this country but I am very ashamed of what we've done to it.

 

If you know somebody from the WWII era, take some time and talk with them.  Hear their stories.  Ask them what they did for fun when they were kids or what they think about things today.  My dad actually worked on a threashing crew at one time.  Most of all, let them know how much they are appreciated.  They've held this country together the way I see it.  Once they are gone, it will be like life without a net.  I guess this just hits close to me because of dad and the environment in which I grew up.

 

Sorry for the extremely long rant but I think these folks deserve some respect and admiration while there are still some here to accept it.


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