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Removing Rust with Electrolysis



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Since this is kinda line of site in it's operation, you would have to run it for a while and flip it. If you have a large enough container to suspend it, that might be better. Having the black lead in the water won't hurt anything (hasn't for mine anyways) but if you have a momentary lapse of reason and reach into the tank, you can get a tingle. Little like a 9 volt on the tongue, only in your hands. Oh, it's more pronounced if you have a cut... Rather Unpleasant. Easy to avoid tho, just turn it off before reaching in
    • KC9KAS said thank you

Thank-you!
Will this process damage aluminum parts for removing paint?
I have been using the same set of bedknives from a fairway reel mower used on the golf course I retired from as electrodes since August 2110. I finally replaced them today after they became extremely corroded and the foam on top of the water went from 2 1/2 to 3 " deep to only getting to an half an inch or so tops.

I also added another dose of the Arm & hammer to the water. I figure it will last until the water in the barrel freezes solid for about four months. There is still quite a bit of metal left on the knives so I am going to let them dry out and then either wire brush or grind it off.

I believe I messed up on the first set and made them too long for the 55 gallon plastic barrel I used. The bottom 6" or so of the electrodes were pretty much eaten away so I only used the 22" knives.

On the bedknives themself most golf courses just throw the old knives away or sell them for scrap so possibly you could talk them into throwing some your way.

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I used soft steel for my electrodes and they were too long so I bent them so that they run along the bottom of the barrel. It helps by allowing current to flow down to the electrodes from the bottom of your workpiece. These things work great and a big work save
Thanks, I will have to try this the next time I'm cleaning a rusted part off
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brokenfeather
Dec 19, 2011 09:06 PM
his system works way better than I thought it would. Love it. I keep improving it as I go along. I'm doing a steel seat right now. It's going on my cart
This is the same process used to make hydrogen gas,(which has no oder) I would sugest you be very careful not to get any open flames near it, and keep it out in the open or very well ventilated places.Water is 1/2 hydrogen and 1/2 oxygen, the electrolis seperates the 2 and the gas will surface.Hydrogen is very explosive,so i would be careful.I made a small version of this,put on one of my tractors. I ran a vacume line into the breather,you wouldn't beleive how much more power hydrogen gas will give a gas moto


You could actually lean the fuel mixture on the carb and pick up fuel mileage. The only thing about this is you have to drive a power source to generate the electricity to separate the H and the O2. Would that not nullify any fuel savings?


no it don't,it takes very few amps to make this work,also i use cristal lie instead of backing soda, it is cleaner and uses even less amps.I ran directly from the battery,(inline fuse)if you get too much lie in it, it will simply blow the fuse,I use a 30 amp fuse,This will only work on older vehickles, because of the computer in newer ones


To not high-jack this thread, We should start a new thread on this subject. Just wondering on how many guys have tried this and their thoughts. I am sure there are as many opinions on this as we have members. Could be the longest thread on this site?
http://www.youtube.c...i?feature=guide

I have a few clips on the process. I use Oxy-Clean in my tank. I also connect my charger to an off delay timer in case I'm not around to pull my parts out of the tank. It's a good safety feature.

I have also heard that the waste water is good for the garden due to the iron content in the water. I haven't dumed into my garden simply because of the ease of draining my tank.

Also, the article advises against using stainless for your sacrificial steel. I couldn't agree more on this. Harmful chromates are produced in the water making it unsafe and illegal to dump into the sanitary sewer.
its a great idea and way better then sand blasting all that heavy krud off. spending $30 bucks to replace a charger is better then $300 on a new compressor. but i was thinking of building a cheap 6'x 6' shed with one wall plywood and the other 3 walls with chicken wire over them to let the fumes out keep the kids and critters away.
plain baking soda work good too
that is what I used
Hi People,
I may of missed something horribly obvious, but would 3/4" copper pipes work for the anodes? Cost wise I realize that it would be expensive!!!, but it would be very easy to solder together in any grid size and shape. Would it be safe to use, would it last, and would it be easy to clean?
I have my parts barrel ready to go, I am using a 50 gallon plastic drum laying on its side with a 20" X 30" oval cut in its side.
Thanks
Bronco77

I had to get ready to dump mine big old 55 gal. barrel. 32 degs. things break up here.
What a discovery!
Told 5 gallons of the solution and put it in to a metal 5 gallon pail.
Used the pail as the anode and the process worked even better than in the 55 gallon barrel.
Water got pretty warm "100 Degs." and did not even have to brush the part to clean it up.
It was a very rusted pin and it came out clean as a whistle. Pail was VERY rusty on the inside. The pail I can scrap when depleted.
Just a heads up.

For small items this is the way to go


i have a 60+ gallon tank that i do 42 and under decks in it works GREAT
Just built my tank Thursday evening. Used 4 pieces of 1/2" re-bar. Each piece was 2 " longer than the bucket depth. I then welded short pieces of re-bar between the 4 "electrodes" so I only need to attach the battery charger clamp to 1 location. I used a piece of heavy copper wire to suspend the piece I wanted to "de-rust". The copper wire really took a beating during this process. I think I need a better connection on the piece I am trying to de-rust.
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Toolpartzman
Jun 19, 2012 07:04 PM
Steel-(metal) tanks used as part of the circuit-instead of passive plastic will be full of holes in no time-I know have a pickup load of them if anyone wants 'em.
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ShelbyGT550
Aug 24, 2012 08:21 PM
Hows the power its sucking though? With rising power rates is this fesable?
Good article on a useful trick to know. There are quiet a few questions in the comments that could be cleared up though.
As you mentioned in the article DO NOT use stainless steel! Also NO CHROME! Both generate hazadous chemicals/waste.
Try not to let any copper or galvanize metal into the solution. Very small ammounts of either will cause a green slime to form on top of the solution.
The Arm and Hammer washing soda is commonly used, but any sodium carbonate (soda ash) product will work, and most don't have the additives that produce a perfumed aroma like the washing soda. I use swimming pool PH increaser. It is pure soda ash.
This process is for removing rust. It will take off paint and decals, provided there is rust under them. When paint and or decals are removed by this process it is actually removing the layer of rust that the paint or decal is sticking to. It will not remove paint or decals from sound metal.
It can be used to descale aluminum parts but unlike steel which can be left in after the process is complete, if aluminum is left in too long it can cause surface pitting.
The anodes need to be the same type metal as what you are cleaning. The process works by taking iron (or whatever metal is being cleaned) ions from the anodes and swapping them with the iron oxide ions on the cathode (good metal swapped for rust). Many have mentioned current draw. The solution used is a semiconductor. The closer you get the anodes to the cathodes the more current can pass between them, therefore the faster the process works. That means a large container with anodes permaently placed around the outer edge will work rather slowly on small parts hung in the center, several inches away from the anodes. Cathodes can be placed closer to the piece being cleaned to speed things up.
I use a Rubbermaid 45 gallon trash container. I usually use eight peices of rebar arranged around the inside, each with a romex cable clamp on top. I have them daisy chained together with wire. I use a 12 volt battery charger as a power source and most parts clean up in a few hours. With the cable clamps on the rebar I can unscrew the clamps and pull the rebar out for cleaning/replacement when eaten away. When I need to drain the container I place a length of 1/4" vacuum hose into the tank, with the end above the sludg and hang it over the side to the ground. I start a syphon action with a hand vacuum pump and let gravity do the rest of the work.
    • marlboro180 said thank you

Very good info! I printed to a *.pdf for my file.

Should have a download *.pdf on line for all.

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nhironworks
Dec 29, 2012 10:46 AM

Great Info, cant wait to try it!

Great article. I finally got around to trying this today. I didn't have any luck with it. It may have been the cheap harbor freight charger I was using. Going to give it another shot tomorrow!